Tren-e / Test-e Cycle help.

[haimelik313]

So, i decided to run my first serious cycle, i'm 20 years old, usually around 210lbs bodyweight at 5ft9, my bodyfat i guess it's around 15-18%.. i'll attach a few pictures that i took today at 220lbs bodyweight (had mad munchies all weekend lol).
so, i decided i want to go pro and compete in classic physique or maybe even arnold classic, i started a Test-e 500mg / Tren-e 400mg weekly dose for 8 weeks, i got my proviron, lots of clomid and letro, nolva, HCG for PCT so don't worry about that, since this is my first cycle ever, what should i expect my results to be on this 2 compounds? and what is my bodyfat guesstimate % you guys/vets think from the pictures i posted? only 1 front is flexed and the lat spread, all the others are fully relaxedView attachment 567228View attachment 567229View attachment 567230View attachment 567231View attachment 567232

 

[Milton]

tren is not for first cycle, and your too young for steroids.

 

[Milton]

your first serious cycle???? whats your cycle history? your 2o years old.

 

[tbonexl]

Test-e 500mg / Tren-e 400mg weekly dose for 8 weeks, i got my proviron, lots of clomid and letro, nolva, HCG for PCT so don't worry about that, since this is my first cycle ever,

Don't worry about that???

This is a very piss poor planned cycle! 8 weeks with any long esters compound shows complete ignorance. Lots of clomid, proviron, letro and hcg for pct? What is all that for???

Do you even have any idea whatsoever on what your doing???

It appears that you just grabbed whatever and are throwing it together to make a "pro cycle" lol. Not one person would ever do this. This is just flat out stupid! You are 20 years old too...

 

[haimelik313]

I tried turinabol on it's own like 2 years ago, and please don't come up with the " you're too young to do steroids" thing, I'm mentally ready and I've had great results as a natural in my total 5 years of training, i wanna go through the leap now from amateur to pro, so if anyone reads this, I've already started my cycle, i just want to know what are the expected results i could have with pin point diet and training, i train everyday, and my lifts are naturally strong doing 500+ deadlifts, 440lb squat and 375 bench ( my best lifts as natural)

 

[haimelik313]

Test-e 500mg / Tren-e 400mg weekly dose for 8 weeks, i got my proviron, lots of clomid and letro, nolva, HCG for PCT so don't worry about that, since this is my first cycle ever,

Don't worry about that???

This is a very piss poor planned cycle! 8 weeks with any long esters compound shows complete ignorance. Lots of clomid, proviron, letro and hcg for pct? What is all that for???

Do you even have any idea whatsoever on what your doing???

It appears that you just grabbed whatever and are throwing it together to make a "pro cycle" lol. Not one person would ever do this. This is just flat out stupid! You are 20 years old too...

What would you recommend changing here? From the research i did, test and tren go well together, dose isn't super high, what's the deal with being 20 year old? I've been bodybuilding for a long time and it's something i really want to go pro, as for all the things for pct And while on cycle incase i get gyno symptoms to be able to stop it and for pct to get my testosterone levels to natural levels.. I don't see what's wrong here, elaborate please rather than just calling me out

 

[dazdazdaz1972]

at 20 your test levels should be through the roof i will swap all my cycles for your youth lol seriuosly though wait a few years you look like your doing great without it just eat eat eat

 

[tbonexl]

What would you recommend changing here? From the research i did, test and tren go well together, dose isn't super high, what's the deal with being 20 year old? I've been bodybuilding for a long time and it's something i really want to go pro, as for all the things for pct And while on cycle incase i get gyno symptoms to be able to stop it and for pct to get my testosterone levels to natural levels.. I don't see what's wrong here, elaborate please rather than just calling me out

Ok I'll dive in. Why don't you list your complete cycle plan from week 1 to end of pct?

 

[haimelik313]

My plan is to do week 1-8 injections of test&tren
From the beginning of week 2 start taking proviron 50mg daily till the end of the cycle And if i feel gyno symptoms I'll take letro aswell, Clomid I'm planning on running it for 200 the first 3 days ( 2 weeks after last pin)
Then drop it down to 150 for the first week
Week 2 take 100, week 3&4 take 50 ( I'll be taking nolva aswell and pin pregnile 2x post cycle, I'll be taking hcg aswell

 

[freqfly]

Besides the fact that yes you are too young; tren should NEVER be used for a first cycle. Tren should also never be ran without a dopamine agonist; how are you going to control prolactin? I suggest you read beginner cycle thread, drop the tren and run a proper test cycle. 8 weeks for long esters? HCG for PCT? I'm sorry and don't mean disrespect but you clearly need to do a lot more research.

 

[scorob777]

What would you recommend changing here? From the research i did, test and tren go well together, dose isn't super high, what's the deal with being 20 year old? I've been bodybuilding for a long time and it's something i really want to go pro, as for all the things for pct And while on cycle incase i get gyno symptoms to be able to stop it and for pct to get my testosterone levels to natural levels.. I don't see what's wrong here, elaborate please rather than just calling me out

At 20 years old your brain and endrocrine system are not done growing yet, you could cause damage that you don't appreciate yet - long term effects like depression, loss of libido, ED. Or you can gamble that in 20 or 30 years there are cures that don't exist now, roll the dice.

Real pros will tell you the very best approach is to max out your genetic potential, which best case would take you up to the 27, 28, 29ish range - then jump on performance boosting drugs. Building a better base now will allow a better body later on.

Whether or not you are able to hit your genetic max will tell you if this lifestyle is for you, most - meaning like 99.9% of people cannot ever do that.

 

[tbonexl]

My plan is to do week 1-8 injections of test&tren
From the beginning of week 2 start taking proviron 50mg daily till the end of the cycle And if i feel gyno symptoms I'll take letro aswell, Clomid I'm planning on running it for 200 the first 3 days ( 2 weeks after last pin)
Then drop it down to 150 for the first week
Week 2 take 100, week 3&4 take 50 ( I'll be taking nolva aswell and pin pregnile 2x post cycle, I'll be taking hcg aswell

So you are going to use long ester gear for just 8 weeks? Where did you get this idea???
What exactly do you think proviron does???
Where did you get the idea to use letro??? Letro is super fucking strong and based off everything else you posted, you are sure to crash your estrogen using it!

Why in the hell are you planning to use such a mega high dose of clomid???
If you had done any research at all on clomid you would know that dose will have highly negative side effects. Blurred vision and possible stroke would be the concerning ones.

Look, I'm not going to sit here and pretend your age doesn't bother me. If you look past your age because your going to do what you want to do anyways, this cycle plan is COMPLETE SHIT!!! You are no doubt going to screw yourself up doing this!

If you are going to run a cycle, atleast educate yourself on what you are doing! There isn't a single person on this site that would plan a cycle like this because it is a horrible idea!
It's not even your gear selection that is the problem, it is how you plan on using it. This would be a horrible 10th cycle not to mention a first one.
You are not going to become a pro off of one cycle. That is just the blunt facts. You would do yourself a big favor by atleast using gear in a responsible way. This will not go well at all for you. What was the point of posting it here if you did not want any help???