Tren for sheer size and mass....

[STAUNCHED427]

Well my mate dropped past the other day with some goodies and he had some good old Tren E on him freshly made, ofcourse great timing!

Blended up a Test/Tren mix for me and have started 100mg Test/100mg Tren E which I plan on running possibly for 10 if not 20 weeks. Hold up, let me get the fire extinguisher the put out the flaming lol !

From what I've been looking up, I've seen a fair few people having success with 100mg Test/100mg Tren as their TRT/cruise protocol and actually finding they feel better and their bloodwork does not come back as bad, some improved, some didn't vary (again individualistic) however most reports say that they found it blew an equal dose of test (150-300mg Test E) per week without the drastic Tren sides and fucked up bloodwork. I believe their is a HRT doctor that advocates this low dose stack as well.

So, naturally I'm gonna try it out because I simply convert Test way to hard, it actually saves $ and I think I'm in for a good run! Will be getting bloods at the 6 week mark andf seeing how things are. I may even be able to get away without an AI or atleast a very low dose.

 

[jozifp103]

Well my mate dropped past the other day with some goodies and he had some good old Tren E on him freshly made, ofcourse great timing!

Blended up a Test/Tren mix for me and have started 100mg Test/100mg Tren E which I plan on running possibly for 10 if not 20 weeks. Hold up, let me get the fire extinguisher the put out the flaming lol !

From what I've been looking up, I've seen a fair few people having success with 100mg Test/100mg Tren as their TRT/cruise protocol and actually finding they feel better and their bloodwork does not come back as bad, some improved, some didn't vary (again individualistic) however most reports say that they found it blew an equal dose of test (150-300mg Test E) per week without the drastic Tren sides and fucked up bloodwork. I believe their is a HRT doctor that advocates this low dose stack as well.

So, naturally I'm gonna try it out because I simply convert Test way to hard, it actually saves $ and I think I'm in for a good run! Will be getting bloods at the 6 week mark andf seeing how things are. I may even be able to get away without an AI or atleast a very low dose.

I'd love to see how this works for you. I've heard of similar protocols but it just sounds so taboo to run tren on a cruise.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

I'd love to see how this works for you. I've heard of similar protocols but it just sounds so taboo to run tren on a cruise.

It really is bluring the line between a cruise, but hey in all honesty, TRT is purely Test only, anything above 200mg Test for TRT is getting into what I would consider enhanced TRT/AAS usage.

Call it a blast, I call it I'm running Test/Tren at 100mg each per week as a trial and seeing how I go. You never know withou trying! and Tren is bloody strong shit, so I believe I'll enjoy it, but I'll have to wait and see!

 

[Repo]

I've run tren at many different doses... from light maintenance - to very heavy bulking cycles.

We know diet is really the key to determine the type of cycle - as far as lean or bulking... "right."

Well, the same rule applies to gear portions (for the most part) - as for bulking or leaning out... but the
diet is really the critical factor, when you look at the basics of your stack within the cycle.

Setting aside a cycle leading up to the stage... that's a whole new ballgame, and puts a tight focus on the
ingredients of the stack.

Anyhow, back on track... although tren can give a much tighter dry look - it is still wicked good for bulking from the
intensity of it's nature... which also brings out the intensity for lifting heavier than usual...

Sprinkle a mild dose of Dbol, and you'll soon be turning heads when you enter a room.

Most of my best bulking cycles have a heavy load of tren.

 

[halfwit]

It really is bluring the line between a cruise, but hey in all honesty, TRT is purely Test only, anything above 200mg Test for TRT is getting into what I would consider enhanced TRT/AAS usage.

Call it a blast, I call it I'm running Test/Tren at 100mg each per week as a trial and seeing how I go. You never know withou trying! and Tren is bloody strong shit, so I believe I'll enjoy it, but I'll have to wait and see!

You've been here for quite awhile Staunched, so I too am curious as to what you experience as most folks that report such an unconventional cruise don't come across as trustworthy in my book. It will be interesting to see if the impact on lipids/kidneys/liver/mental state are completely avoided with such a small dose.

It's really not too far of a stretch from nandrolone at twice that dose (which I do) as far as progestin activity, I just wonder if you'll get the "I'm SO done with tren" feeling or not.

 

[jozifp103]

You've been here for quite awhile Staunched, so I too am curious as to what you experience as most folks that report such an unconventional cruise don't come across as trustworthy in my book. It will be interesting to see if the impact on lipids/kidneys/liver/mental state are completely avoided with such a small dose.

It's really not too far of a stretch from nandrolone at twice that dose (which I do) as far as progestin activity, I just wonder if you'll get the "I'm SO done with tren" feeling or not.

Haha....I got that around week 8 on my first and only tren run so far. Only 350mg with 250mg test, but man it gets exhausting. The fight to stay on because the results are so wonderful....but the need to come off because you need to sleep and stop fantasizing about punching babies in the face. If you couldn't tell...I got all the cliche side effects associated with tren. But what am i doing? Upping the dose for next time Keep your baby away from me.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Halfwit believe me the "I'm so sick of Tren" comment has been thrown around at each of the few times I have ran Tren although doses were alway at 200+mg per week. It's approaching the 7 day mark tommorow so it's to early to tell anything worth noting except for placebo at this dose so early. Ultimately, the way I see it 100mg Tren along with a legitamte 100mg of Test... Anyone who says that 100mg of Tren will do nothing is an idiot as the stuff is damn strong, however I am praying it really is going to turn out how I am hoping.

Am I expecting major effects? Nope. Side effects? Fucking hope not lol! Hopefully I get all that edge that nothing but Tren gives and I absolutely expect 100mg to produce a little extra tightness and hardness along with that awesome fullness in the muscle bellies tht it produces but really what I am hoping for is my bloodwork to come back somehwat acceptable at such a dose.

Honestly quite excited to see what I can achieve out of this 100/100 stack, let's not forget that major player though which is diet and training

One other thing which I am really hoping that 100mg Tren wn't affect is my cardio as I have been doing it almost daily and that last thing I want is for it to start winding me.

 

[Xander24]

Consider this. 100mg tren = 500mg test. If you can't get SOMETHING out of that then you have exposed a hole in either your diet or training methodology.

Please keeps us posted on your tren cruise. I'm deep into a tren A cycle and I'm sad I will be coming off soon. Only sides I'm getting now at 100mg / ED is I'm a complete cunt. Nothing physical, I just feel like telling everyone they need to fuck off, they can't drive for shit, or they are mentally incapable of simple tasks fit for children. While I can physically handle 100mg ED with great sleep and no sweats anymore, mentally it's more than I think I'll every try to handle again. I'm starting not to like myself on this dose. It would be fascinating to see a shrink, not tell him I'm shooting 100mg / day of the most androgenic stuff out there, and tell him some of my thoughts. Can you say psych ward? 75mg is my sweet spot, which anabolicly speaking is 375mg/ day of test. With an intermittent fasting diet this is perfect for a 12 week recomp of the body. 16 weeks always my goal on a tren cycle. Oh but if we can cruise on this stuff....game changer.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

100mg Tren = 500mg Test on paper, I think it's hard to compare due to the nature of Test compared to Tren itself. But the point absolutely does stand, if you can not make anything significant off of 100mg Tren there is issues at bay.

100mg ED of Tren Ace oh fuck yeah that is gauranteed a way to induce cunt mode haha, I know the feeling and at that dose it's ridiculous...50mg ED for me was doing that beyond what I could 100% control. One major thing is I am already trying to be more humble and forgiving and realise I am indeed on a dose of Tren, but there is no excuse for being an asshole so I'm hoping 100mg per week doesn't fuck with me or it will be dropped for good. Not worth it if I simply can't control it. A major part of running it so low along with longetivity is being able to mentally handle it. Then again I can be a real fucker if need be juicing or not, I think after so long you learn to tame and channel the AAS induced aggression if you will, to a point.

I agree, sure a good old hefty wholesome dose of Tren Ace for a month would recomp me hard and give me a quick window of size but if I can cruise on this and my bloods come back fine, considering I could get away with a tiny dose of an AI if not no AI... My missus will be happy coz it's not breaking the bank, I'll be happy, no ones gonna get Tren rage on their ass, and I get the benefits! Well, hopefully that's how it all pans out haha. Too early to tell although I expect from the next shot tommorow morning onwards things might start coming on... Missus claims I am a bit warmer when it's cuddle time but I put it down to increased calories, if it was acetate different story.

 

[halfwit]

Halfwit believe me the "I'm so sick of Tren" comment has been thrown around at each of the few times I have ran Tren although doses were alway at 200+mg per week. It's approaching the 7 day mark tommorow so it's to early to tell anything worth noting except for placebo at this dose so early. Ultimately, the way I see it 100mg Tren along with a legitamte 100mg of Test... Anyone who says that 100mg of Tren will do nothing is an idiot as the stuff is damn strong, however I am praying it really is going to turn out how I am hoping.

Am I expecting major effects? Nope. Side effects? Fucking hope not lol! Hopefully I get all that edge that nothing but Tren gives and I absolutely expect 100mg to produce a little extra tightness and hardness along with that awesome fullness in the muscle bellies tht it produces but really what I am hoping for is my bloodwork to come back somehwat acceptable at such a dose.

Honestly quite excited to see what I can achieve out of this 100/100 stack, let's not forget that major player though which is diet and training

One other thing which I am really hoping that 100mg Tren wn't affect is my cardio as I have been doing it almost daily and that last thing I want is for it to start winding me.

Super interested as I don't think I personally have the self control to keep things so low key.

I'd start out the way you are, but inevitably I would find myself pinning 700mg+ or more before I knew it. I'm just one of those all or nothing guys, so I always try to pay attention to when someone else can do what I can't.

It's funny, I can keep all markers in healthy ranges, but I still get to the point where I have to stop eventually as I too just get worn down from the sweat, crazy dreams/thoughts, and that God forsaken urge to time myself in literally EVERYTHING I do while on tren. Stuff is so amazing in what it can do, but I know that it's only a limited time deal for me.

That and the piss, lol. Stinky dark piss. Ewwww!

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Haha yeah I feel ya on the going from a conservative dose to a BOOM cutting sick on the Tren and dicking myself like that ultimately. Since the last Tren run at 50mg EOD my head is a little more grown up if you will and I simply wouldn't be that silly to go higher on the Tren fucking with the entire point of trying to run a sustainable (atleast longer than your typical Tren run) and seeing how it really goes. Patience really does pay off, and I think that fact alone I have embedded into my mind whic was a weak point if key for this going to work. I'd be lying if the thought of going to 150/150 hasn't crossed my mind, but you have to really show some discipline. In saying that depending how I go, I may go to 100 Test/150mg Tren because I plan on keeping my Test at 100mg to see if I can skip the AI and avoid the Test bloat. But that's in the future if it all goes well. Then again, why not stick with the 100/100 if it works !

Plus it's winter over here I'm hoping this keeps me nice and cozy from the good old Tren temperature lol.

Come the 10 week mark if it is AOK and bloods come back good, or not far off I may look at throwing in a tiny bit of Deca I'm talking 50-100mg but I'm getting ahead of myself. I wanna see what Tren can do long term and it's the whole point of low dose, quality over quanitity if you will.

 

[Xander24]

I would bet money that ou will be able to do cardio on that cruise dose of 100mg. Lack of cardio, at least for me as with most negative sides, subside over time. So maybe for the first month it will be tough, then before you know it you wouldn't even know your on tren when your jogging or sprinting. That's just my prediction. Will be interesting to find out.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Hell yeah another thing I am hoping that 100mg per week won't hinder is my cardio performance, absolutely can not stand being winded by Tren! From memory, whilst all AAS increase prostaglandin production, Tren does so excessively and I like my cardio so.

Most guys report whilst continuing their cardio on Tren it is slightly hindered and they notice a rebound... IMO Tren doesn't directly kill cardio, rather it is a masking effect on cardio.

In week 2 now, 3rd shot done 12 hours ago and am starting to notice slightly increase in body temp and general fullness although water intake and food intake has increased so it could be put down to that. I'm not expecting much until I hit the week 3-4 mark anyway, no rush here.