TRT: Low Test: Mood Swings -- what's the hormone causing this?

Westshore

Westshore

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Hey guys for the past 6 months to a year I'm super F-ing grouchy in the morning. I just feel pissed off and cranky. My test is super low (271 ng/Dl) and I'm now on Test Cyp. at 100mg ew. I have been running only Test Cyp for just the past 3 weeks and 3 days (started June 15th.)

Question: Is this an estriodial issue?
Should I run my own labs this week and see if I need to control estrogen?
I'm having a follow up with my TRT doc on July 20th. But would it behoove me to know my bloodwork now? I want to be armed and prepared to know what to ask for (HCG; Arimidex, etc.)

Just to be clear...I've never been a bitchy/grouchy person. I can actually "feel" how fucking annoyed I feel at everything. And to reiterate...this was going on b/f I started taking the Test Cyp.

Finally, is it common for 100 mg/ew of Test Cyp. not to increase my libido? I'm still functioning just fine, but I'm not jacking three times a day as some guys report.
 
I wouldn't worry about blood work till about 6 weeks. That's about how long it takes to get stable test levels. What's your protocol? E3.5D? Subq or IM?
 
I'm currently pinning .5 cc (which is 100 mgs) on Mondays --just once a week. I could split the dose, but then I'm drawing up only .25 cc's if I go with E3.5D. I'm happy to do so cause I don't get any PIP. But the long half life of Cyp. should allow me once a week right? I'm currently pinning my glutes with a 1.5" 22.
 
Low T makes one grumpy. We all were like that before getting on TRT. Give TRT time to work and level off your hormones and you will be back to your happy go lucky self (as longnas estrogen is managed).
 
most guys using either test cyp or e do the e3.5d including myself. I started exactly where you are adjusting dosage and injection frequency the same amount. It takes time to find what works for you but the more frequency of injection equals less hormonal rollercoaster and since your new you don't have any peak and trough bloodwork to know how your test level is swinging.

Just from my personal experience I wish I had listened and switched to e3.5d from the beginning would have saved me the aggravation I had getting dialed in
 
Ok, I'll switch to the 3.5 frequency. My Doctor WANTED me to start at 200 mg/ every two weeks--I said no. Then he prescribed me 6 pins. I ordered a case of 200 from MedVet for half the price. I'm now GTG on rigs for a while.

The only thing is that he wanted me to draw blood next week "mid-cycle" (which made me chuckle) so I was planning on pinning my 100 mg on Sunday, drawing blood on Wednesday. Do think that's gonna matter? or should I pin .25 mg Sunday, draw blood Wednesday (day) and pin .25 mg that evening?

I'm battling two thoughts 1) how is 100 mg / week helping me (am I at a good level of T) and 2) kinda want to sandbag the dose to show a lower T and get a higher weekly script of the Test Cyp. But so far I've been within a micron of .5 mg. every week. I'm following advice from Megatron and Dino.

Totally appreciate the advice from you and Mega. I'd buy you a beer if you guys were nearby and not in "the Program."
 
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Don't sand bag cause more issues than its worth. Get dialed in properly at a dose that makes you feel better. More isn't better with a trt dose. You can blast and cruise once your dialed in . Don't rush it. The journey of trt has taught me patience. I'm not a patient person but I took the advice given here and it worked put great for me. Took about a year to get where I feel great. I know that's not what you want to here
 
No...I promised earlier that I'd follow the protocol. I'm pretty good with waiting. But I do want to feel better. The idea of blasting does sound good as I've been so fucking low-hormonal lately that feeling a rush of T would be nice. I've followed the protocol to a T.

The only area that I may venture out on is using some HCG. If my doctor turns out to be lame (as I've read here, and on IMT and S.com) etc. I don't want to have my twins shut down for good. I know the 271 is low...but I'd rather have some production of my own test as long as possible.

I'll know more after the 20th. Then I'll check back in with you all.

I do appreciate the help!

How old are you Hiram?
 
45 brother. I'm in tge process of doing a little experiment but I believe that HCG was the culprit in my last blast of a major gyno flare up my e2 wasn't that high and I was using ralox 30mg ed HCG. 250iu 2x a week. I think I'm real sensitive to it. I was told by a valued vet here thst he knows of people who had the same reaction. I'm done having lids I had a vesctomy so HCG isn't in my future plans the atrophy isn't that unbearable no pain just some shrinkage for me. Just my personal experience.
 
hiram1st said:
45 brother. I'm in tge process of doing a little experiment but I believe that HCG was the culprit in my last blast of a major gyno flare up my e2 wasn't that high and I was using ralox 30mg ed HCG. 250iu 2x a week. I think I'm real sensitive to it. I was told by a valued vet here thst he knows of people who had the same reaction. I'm done having lids I had a vesctomy so HCG isn't in my future plans the atrophy isn't that unbearable no pain just some shrinkage for me. Just my personal experience.
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Not to derail the topic - but we have talked about this before, as I have the same problems with HCG. It has been MUCH better for me now that I switched from 250 twice a week to 50iu every day.

Full size and function without the sides I was getting from the larger doses.

-Jim
 
So buddy, are you recommending that I don't take HCG? I got gyno from Tagamet years ago. I need to get a bit of it removed. But I'll wait to get my TRT dialed in--do a blast or two--and see what it looks like then.
 
Should ask you...how else can you recommend that I keep my natty (low) testosterone levels? I'd like to keep as much of my boyz functioning as possible.
 
Westshore said:
Should ask you...how else can you recommend that I keep my natty (low) testosterone levels? I'd like to keep as much of my boyz functioning as possible.
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Hcg and occasionally using mt2 are the only 2 things I know of that stimulate hpta
using mt2 every 2 or 3 months will keep you dark though.
 
It's not through the pigmentation process, during some trials some of the participants noticed they could quit using viagra or cialis. It being studied now on how it can be manipulated into a erectile dysfunction medication. One of the main things scientists noticed was a increase in luteinizing hormone.

When I read I laughed and said damn that be good for pct. And get dark to boot.
 
271 is not a super low T level for plenty docs out there....
It is crap though. You're lucky you're getting treatment for it.
A lot of folks on here have been through hell to get a script.
 
Westshore said:
So buddy, are you recommending that I don't take HCG? I got gyno from Tagamet years ago. I need to get a bit of it removed. But I'll wait to get my TRT dialed in--do a blast or two--and see what it looks like then.
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Naa, HCG is fine, just saying be careful I suppose. I can bet with almost certainty you will aggravate your gyno when you try and blast. To me, a blast is not worth the risk of worsening gyno...

-Jim
 
Jimstigator said:
Naa, HCG is fine, just saying be careful I suppose. I can bet with almost certainty you will aggravate your gyno when you try and blast. To me, a blast is not worth the risk of worsening gyno...

-Jim
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On the bright side, there are compounds that don't aromatize. Definitely agree that caution should be exercised as some of you guys are sensitive to HCG.
 
OKY DOKY.

I'm a wayz away from a blast (even though that does sound good). So I'll check back in with you all on what blast oils to take to lessen the aromatization situation. But I'm also OK with having my sister-in-law's plastic surgery clinic suck out my excess tissue! LOL. (she's a nurse there).
 
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