Trying HIT routine. What do you big bastards think (pullnbig, etc)

[Johny J]

MY main lifting routine was always the traditional volume training. MY split looked like this...
day 1
chest- 9 working sets
trii-3 working sets

day 2
back 9 working
bi's 3 sets

day 3 off

day 4
shoulder\traps

day 5
bi's 6 sets
tri's 6 sets

day 6 legs
8 sets or so

ok, now you know the old deal. Anyway... had pretty good results witht hat, got prety big, got pretty strong. Come december, i stopped lifting and eating. fast forward to now, and i am about 20-25lbs liighter.
I am back in the gym now, and looking at some differnt shit, i got turned on to HST training. Similiar to DC training for those who dont know.

I am doing a total body workout, 1-2 working sets per body part, EOD.
At the end of the week, it ends up being the same total number of sets as the traditional volume training. However, the idea is to keep the growth stimulating environment constant by hitting the muslce, giving it 48 hours to recover, and hiting it again. However, you arent destroying it with loads of sets each time.

I remember speaking with BFoldTheTruth a while back, and when i told him how many sets i do (while volume training), he said that it was way to much. He said he hit it hard once or twice and then ate everything he could.

So this is the aproach i figured i woudl take. What do you guys think of the HST routine, my idea, my comments on this thread, etc.

 

[Rokomuscle1]

How have your results been so far??? How many sets are you doing and rep range??

 

[Johny J]

i have only had 3 work out sessions using this method so far, today being my 4th. SO as fas as results, really just strength increases that result from actually touching a weight as opposed to partying. Rep ranges are just like it says on the HST sight (didnt want to cvary all that much).. 15reps for 6 sessions, 10reps for 6 sessions, 5 reps for 6 sessions, 2 reps with 2-3 negatives ofr 6 sessions.
Been doing 1-2 working lifts per lift, and a couple of warm up sets if that body part hasnt been worked yet.

Its a bitch of a workout, cause who the fuck wants to do every single lift in 1 day. But it feels hella good at the end. And if i get big, thats all that matters.

 

[Starkraven]

thats HST not HIT. correct me if im wrong.

 

[Johny J]

thats HST not HIT. correct me if im wrong.

oh shit. good catch. Thats what i meant, HST.

thanks

 

[SamCooke]

I say go to the gym only 3 times/week, eat 5000+ calories, and Lift AT LEAST 5-10lbs more each workout. -just my opinion, worked for me, and still is!

 

[pullinbig]

i agree with BFoldTheTruth, a fellow 300lber.

dont understand the facination with high volume routines. most times they are counter productive. but most small guys love um. same weights year in and year out. one guy i know was bragging on adding 25lbs to his bench in only one year!!!!! i had to laugh and walk off.

low volume high intensity works, period.

 

[Johny J]

i agree with BFoldTheTruth, a fellow 300lber.

dont understand the facination with high volume routines. most times they are counter productive. but most small guys love um. same weights year in and year out. one guy i know was bragging on adding 25lbs to his bench in only one year!!!!! i had to laugh and walk off.

low volume high intensity works, period.

cool. believe me, its intense. Granted, the working set isnt to failure every workout, just every 6th workout.

As far as your comment about high volume....
I really think it has to do with people simply believing the harder you work, the more you will get out of it. Now while this is true of life in general, there is a point of diminished returns in lifting.
When peopel only do a set or 2, they feel as if they bitched out and had a crap session.

I also believe that younger guys (under 22 lets say) can get away with this high volume and still grow to a degree.
They may not grow as much as if they followe4d your advice, but they will grow. I feel they can get away with it cause of this, lets face it, in your teens and early 20's you are bullet proof. You have the recovery ability of a monster, high hormone levels, etc.
So they dont overtrain as easily.
Just my opinion.

Looking forward to seeing what results i get.

 

[pullinbig]

high doses of test make me like a 18 year old. i still cant do high volume, its a small % of the folks that can. young or old. very few people grow on high volume, i have only met 3 (persoanally met and watched train) in the last 5 years or so. and guess what? they do well on heavy weight lower rep stuff as well.

good luck and keep us posted. shit start a log in the online journal section so we can follow along if you dont mind.

 

[Caca]

MY main lifting routine was always the traditional volume training. MY split looked like this...
day 1
chest- 9 working sets
trii-3 working sets

day 2
back 9 working
bi's 3 sets

day 3 off

day 4
shoulder\traps

day 5
bi's 6 sets
tri's 6 sets

day 6 legs
8 sets or so

ok, now you know the old deal. Anyway... had pretty good results witht hat, got prety big, got pretty strong. Come december, i stopped lifting and eating. fast forward to now, and i am about 20-25lbs liighter.
I am back in the gym now, and looking at some differnt shit, i got turned on to HST training. Similiar to DC training for those who dont know.

I am doing a total body workout, 1-2 working sets per body part, EOD.
At the end of the week, it ends up being the same total number of sets as the traditional volume training. However, the idea is to keep the growth stimulating environment constant by hitting the muslce, giving it 48 hours to recover, and hiting it again. However, you arent destroying it with loads of sets each time.

I remember speaking with BFoldTheTruth a while back, and when i told him how many sets i do (while volume training), he said that it was way to much. He said he hit it hard once or twice and then ate everything he could.

So this is the aproach i figured i woudl take. What do you guys think of the HST routine, my idea, my comments on this thread, etc.

this isn't high intensity - that's arnold/weider volume training.

also, recovery may be possible in 48 hours IF you're a genetic god and are HEAVILY enhanced. assuming you are, another 48 hours will be required for the recovered muscle to SUPERCOMPENSATE/GROW. so you're looking at 4-5 days between workouts.

 

[Johny J]

this isn't high intensity - that's arnold/weider volume training.

also, recovery may be possible in 48 hours IF you're a genetic god and are HEAVILY enhanced. assuming you are, another 48 hours will be required for the recovered muscle to SUPERCOMPENSATE/GROW. so you're looking at 4-5 days between workouts.

ok. did you read my shit closely? It was already corrected that what i am now doing is HST, not HIT. it was a brain fart by me that was pointed out, and then corrected.
I know what i was doing was volume training, i said that.

I also said that if i am only doing one working set for a body part, maybe 2, recovery should be possible in 48 hours.

 

[noomi_nooma]

caca how in the hell do u know its not high intesity? r u training with him?

 

[Insane_Man]

Looking good Johnson, how are your results so far?

 

[jcp2]

Keep us updated on it, their aren't too many better than bfold to talk training with.

 

[Caca]

caca how in the hell do u know its not high intesity? r u training with him?

the basic principle of HIT is short intense training.
9 working sets for the chest is not short.

 

[Johny J]

Keep us updated on it, their aren't too many better than bfold to talk training with.

i will. however, my results are going to be skewed for 2 reasons...

1. I had taken a long time off lifting and eating. SO much of my gains will come fast and furious, thanks to muscle memory.

2. I threw a little gas on the fire for good measure.

Either way, however, i will be able to compare it to what i have done in the past. So far, i feel fuller and look bigger, and am back over 230lb. And its only been 10 days.

 

[Johny J]

the basic principle of HIT is short intense training.
9 working sets for the chest is not short.

i here what you are saying.

During volume training, i did about 9 sets, about half were to failure.

Right now, i am doing 2 working sets for bench, eod. Although the second set is less reps then the first, more so for some added blood flow.


As far as the intensity goes, it is a bitch of a workout to get through. Going from bench, to dips, to leg presses to stiff legged deads to rows, etc is not easy. I got home and eat like a hog, rub one out and could sleep for 10 hours with no prob.