Trying out a bulk and cut cycle

[AceOD]

I’m trying out a new bulk/cut cycle. Whole idea is to get as big as possible and then shred out let me know what y’all think. Right now I’m weighing 224lbs at 22yo and am 6’2” I’ve done 3 cycles before this one just wanted to get some input from some people with more experience.

TestP - 700mg a week 8weeks
Mon,wed,Fri,Sat -175ml

D-Bol - 250mg a week first 4weeks
Monday-Saturday 50ml (sunday off)

Equipoise - 1000mg a week last 6 weeks
Monday, Thursday - 175ml

Tren - 500mg a week last 4weeks
Mon,wed,fri,sat - 125ml

Exos - half a pill a day 12.5mg from start of cycle till gone.

Clomos - 1 pills every Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday last 3 weeks. And 1 pill every day after End of Cycle till gone.

 

[Nicky_eye_lids]

at 22 years of age you have no business messing around with tren. and since your going to do it anyway stay close to your blood works to monitor your levels all the way through.

 

[scorob777]

Seems like a really bad idea, on several levels. Really really bad.

First off your age 22 is too young. You don't need it, and you risk really messing yourself up.

Second the duration is way too short to put on serious mass, it takes time and 8 weeks isn't enough

Third assuming exos means exemestane, your plan of 12.5 mg/day is a bit light at first (with test 700 and dbol 250) you would need 15.5 mg/day - so not too bad here. Later on with 700 test and 1000 boldenone you'd need 18.6 mg/day, so again just a bit light. Don't let your E2 run up in combo with tren or you'll be sporting itchy puffy nipples for the next few years.

Fourth 6 weeks of boldenone? And 1,000 mg/wk??? It has a really long half life, so you won't see much at all from this in terms of benefits, and the level that eventually builds in your blood will mean a long long LONG time between last shot and being able to PCT. Another guy on these forums did really high dose boldenone for a short period, did the PCT too soon, and ended up messed up.

Fifth 500 mg/wk tren? Don't do it, the consequences of it going wrong you can read all over these forums, tren gyno, dick that doesn't work, puffy nipples. Wait until you are well older than 25, and have a bunch of cycles with knowledge of estrogen control before you even think of tren.

Sixth no mention of PCT. Wow, that's the most important part.

 

[oldmusclemike]

First welcome to the board

I'm not going to go into ALL the specifics because there is just so, so much to teach. The whole cycle is wrong for you. I do not condone cycling at age 22.

The doses are way the fuck over the top to the point of me thinking you are a troll.


In reality there is no such thing as a bulk and cut cycle and your idea of getting as big as you can and then shred out is some sort of bro-science terminology. What you are saying is gain as much water and fat tissue I can and then loos it. Bulking and cutting id not done in one cycle but over the course of several cycles and months.

SO in conclusion the cycle is no good and you my friend are clueless as to what you are doing and therefore other then your age ( you will do what you will anyway) you should not do this and start learning what steroids do, how they do what they do. What all the sides are and how they work.

There is so much obvious that you don't know it tells us you are far from ready to cycle properly and safely and to get the best results of using AAS.

I tell you the truth, so if you are bound to moving forward I suggest you do much research and study, beginning right on this forum back with ALL the sticky threads.

You ask for input from MORE experienced members , Check my profile and ...read some of these other guy's profiles and posts. I have nothing to gain here but doing the right thing to help those that need help with their BB endeavors. Taking pride in being a guide to their success because I love this sport and been involved for so many years of my life.

Good Luck

OMM

 

[AceOD]

Not a troll at all man. I just want something that’ll put size on me and be able to stay lean. My past two cycles where only 6 weeks and I ran testP100 at 500mg a week and tri-tren at 400 a week with dbol at 50mg every other day for 2 weeks at the beginning. I ran clomids for my pct. I have no gyno and kept most of my size and strength gains. At the peak of my cycle I was benching around 405-445lbs and squatting around 595lbs. Deadlifts were low due to a back injury back in semi-pro football around 440lbs... beginning of cycle I was 222lbs and at the end I was 248lbs. Rn I’m weight around the 225lb range. I’ve lost about 10-15lbs while on a keto style diet. Doing lots of sprints for cardio and max on bench rn is at 380lbs. So I haven’t lost much. All in all tho since you’re more experienced than I am what would you say to run to put some good size on while staying lean? I have access to anything I need from test to hgh to igf-1 and so on. I’m just looking for some advice or input on a good cycle to put some mass on but stay relatively lean. What’s your recommendation? Ik you think I’m to young but like you said. I’m gonna do it anyway so might as well do it right.

 

[scorob777]

You've already come out of the gates with tren, and pretty high dose at 400 mg/wk, so it may be a sad fact that everything else may seem a bit disappointing to you.

You could try the classic test, deca, dbol cycle, maybe something like 400 mg/wk test, 600 mg/wk deca, and 50 mg/day dbol for 4 weeks. But again you are really too young, and right now when all your body parts are working well (except maybe your back) you might feel bulletproof. But I can tell you as you get older shit starts to break down, and you really don't want your dick or libido to one of those things. Doing heavy cycles like this too early makes that a major risk.

You mentioned clomid for PCT, it works better when combined with nolva. And if you are doing any of these mega dose cycles make sure you know how long to wait for blood levels to bleed down before you start PCT, otherwise it may fail.

And didn't see anything yet about AI, make sure you know what you need for these various doses of things that aromatize like test, boldenone, deca, dbol.

Oh, and I should add those are massive lift numbers you have. I'm jealous.

 

[Nicky_eye_lids]

You've already come out of the gates with tren, and pretty high dose at 400 mg/wk, so it may be a sad fact that everything else may seem a bit disappointing to you.

You could try the classic test, deca, dbol cycle, maybe something like 400 mg/wk test, 600 mg/wk deca, and 50 mg/day dbol for 4 weeks. But again you are really too young, and right now when all your body parts are working well (except maybe your back) you might feel bulletproof. But I can tell you as you get older shit starts to break down, and you really don't want your dick or libido to one of those things. Doing heavy cycles like this too early makes that a major risk.

very well said as many out there are doing heavy cycles to early or worst at an earlier than recommended age without thinking about the long term consequences.