Unable to donate blood due to high BP - abandon cycle or adjust it

[Roush]

I love how no one realised you smoked some bud AKA had some THC haha. Ain't that funny...

But AFAIK Cannabis won't affect blood presure, if anything it temporarily raises it? MY money is on the fact that you dropped the dbol and included dieuretics and didn't have coffee that morning. Caffeine jacks my blood pressure on par with amphetamine personally.

Well I didn't smoke it I have THC in 5 mg tabs form (plus all sorts of other forms,, perks of living in a state where Mary j is legal for recreational use),, I read that it will temporarily spike heart rate, but then will have a calming effect and lower blood pressure (with low to moderate dosages) as well as relax lungs and throat muscles,, a supposed cure for sleep apnea as well..

I probably need to cut my half pot of coffee a day habit .. Im addicted ! As for the THC, that's not addictive,, just playing around with it to see the benefits,, it helped me get through months of being half paralyzed and bed ridden not too long ago

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Oh wow didn't know they had THC in pure tablet form av.! That's awesome that the benefits are able to obtained, a dose measured etc. And no, by no means, THC is not addictive I'm all for it's legalisation and the benefits that come with it.

Yes, most definitely, caffeine IMO, half the world is addicted too. It most absolutely spikes blood pressure and in excess can't be too good for you, nor can heavy AAS use, well it all comes down to moderation. Use your mind to help through the withdrawals, "what exactly is it you are addicted too?" as there is no high/euphoria from it. If you want ot try come down off it, I would taper off it and trick your mind by substituting one of those cups with decaf coffee.

The mind is a powerful thing, yet can be manipulated (placebo effect, need I say more?).

Ofcourse, all in moderation. I am actually very low on liquid Cialis and need to get more, I still use caffeine a few times a week (moderation), however just one cup or coffee or an energy drink...Included is 10mg of Cialis to counter the BP spike.

 

[darkheart91]

I would get off gear at that bp

 

[Roush]

BP is back down to normal for me.. Gonna donate blood Thursday, then get blood work done following week..

Wanting to throw the Dbol back in to my current cycle.. But obviously I must hold a shit ton of water while on Dbol, and BP goes up. . My AI at .5 mg m/w/f is assuming to be fine in my current cycle (test, NPP, deca) ,, but will definitely need to bump it up if I add the Dbol in again ,, apart from keeping e2 in check,, any other suggestions at keeping water retention at a bare bare minimum while on it? Anyone run arimidex and Letro while taking Dbol (or is a risk of e2 crash too great)


Note: I'm also taking proviron and zinc - which have some estrogen blocking properties

 

[STAUNCHED427]

Only thing really is a SERM or in your case a stronger AI so Letro if you want to run dbol, maybe a lower dose of dbol say 20mg ED?

Proviron, Zinc, Masteron... The AI qualities are nothing compared to an actual AI if you ask me, very mild.

 

[maurij1]

My blood pressure is always higher when they use the automatic machines. I make sure they take it manually and with the Xtra large arm cuff. It's amazing how high your BP will get if they use to small of an arm cuff. What's even more amazing is that some of the nurses don't know that!

 

[STAUNCHED427]

BP does fluctate over the course of the day as well...

 

[Roush]

Only thing really is a SERM or in your case a stronger AI so Letro if you want to run dbol, maybe a lower dose of dbol say 20mg ED?

Proviron, Zinc, Masteron... The AI qualities are nothing compared to an actual AI if you ask me, very mild.

I think I'll go the Letro route,, I already have some sitting around here unopened.. If issues arise again I'll just switch Orals ,, maybe run m1T or some other mass builder that doesn't aromatize like Dbol does

 

[STAUNCHED427]

I think I'll go the Letro route,, I already have some sitting around here unopened.. If issues arise again I'll just switch Orals ,, maybe run m1T or some other mass builder that doesn't aromatize like Dbol does

M1T is the 5AR reduced compound of Dbol...Have heard tons of good things about it albeit quite harsh for some, would love to run it, except I don't have access to many exotic compounds here. You could always run Androl but itself can cause gyno and will jack your BP up. Or be like me, and not run orals lol!

Aromatisation is a bitch, you might remember I was planning on blasting up to 1G of test, my gyno is flaring ont he left side at 500mg and Adex+Aromasin isn't controlling it so FWIF I decided to go back to what works for me best, low test and high deca. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

In saying that, I doubt you would have a problem with letro... If you have it, then run it with the dbol it should keep you covered.

 

[Roush]

Blood pressure was finally low enough to donate blood on Thursday.. BP is WAY down.

A week and a half ago it was 186/106
Today it is 119/75

I did not use any BP medication.. I stayed on my cycle, I just dropped the Dbol, kept running test, NPP, deca..

This is what I took

- L-arginine 2600 mg
- no2 2000 mg
- niacin 250 mg
- coq10 800 mg
- turmeric 1200 mg
- fish oil 1300 mg
- cialis 10 mg eod
- beet root juice
- diuretic 200 mg daily first 5 days then dropped to 100 mg
- eliminated all salt and processed food and only ate organic

I obviously must have been holding water from the Dbol,, but in this process of lowering BP and water retention I did not loose any weight whatsoever (other then the day I donated, I was a little over a pound lighter that day.. Which makes sense being a pint of blood weighs about a pound)