Using DNP for fat loss

[Mrrippedzilla]

Having researched DNP extensively, and fully understanding the risks and side effects, I am considering using it in the final weeks of my cutting phase.
I am currently 13% bodyfat, down from 16%, with 6 weeks left to lose the final 15 pounds of fat. Now i'm positive I can do this if i stay consistent on my diet and training, but it doesn't hurt to have a plan B.

My aim is purely fat loss, I am not interested in performance enhancement or any other goal. DNP seems to meet this bill.
My questions for the experts are:
What % increse does DNP cause in metabolism based on a 200mg dose (I don't intend on going over 400mg at max)?
If it causes a 40% increase, as widely reported, for me that would mean an extra 600cal burnt per day, so just over a pound of extra fat per week, so why am I reading about 4%bf loss in 2 weeks etc?

Any information regarding those questions would be greatly appreciated, I realise the risks of DNP, so I need to know if the results are worth it.

 

[You mad Bro]

I read it increases metabolism by 40% can't help you on experience though bro I've never used it. But like with anything I'm sure if you follow correct guidelines you'll have no troubles with it.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

I plan on staying on a low dose to avoid any serious sides (body temp over 99 etc).
I've read about other people using it on these forums, but its not really clear how good the results are once your cycle is done. Can you lose 2-3%bf on a low dose in a few weeks? Hopefully some of the pro's can help.

 

[Hrad]

Are you sure you need to use DNP? Why not something more well-known and popular such as clen?

 

[R1rider]

^^ i sure hope you know what your doing brother. DNP is some serious stuff and extremely dangerous. that stuff literally cooks you from the inside out

i hope some vets who have used it can chime in. i will never touch DNP, its really not needed unless you compete and even then there are safer options

 

[MN87]

I plan on staying on a low dose to avoid any serious sides (body temp over 99 etc).
I've read about other people using it on these forums, but its not really clear how good the results are once your cycle is done. Can you lose 2-3%bf on a low dose in a few weeks? Hopefully some of the pro's can help.

I've seen a few anecdotal posts where people claim that DNP altered their body's bf setpoint to a lower number, especially with continued use. Very interesting stuff

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Are you sure you need to use DNP? Why not something more well-known and popular such as clen?

Clen isn't effective enough bro, it increases metabolism by around 10%, that's not worth it for me. DNP can increase it by 40% on a controllable dose.

^^ i sure hope you know what your doing brother. DNP is some serious stuff and extremely dangerous. that stuff literally cooks you from the inside out

i hope some vets who have used it can chime in. i will never touch DNP, its really not needed unless you compete and even then there are safer options

I no its dangerous as hell bro, done alot of research on it, from what I've read at a low dose its manageable. Just need some experienced users to let me know if the results are worth the 2-3 weeks of hell.

 

[Mr.Port]

Are you sure you need to use DNP? Why not something more well-known and popular such as clen?

Thats what I was thinking, grab some Clen or Albut from RUI.

Not sure on DNP, never used it, but remember seeing soem crazy pics on forum from rash all over legs and body from it , I think heat rash.
I am not trying to scare you. just make sure you study it well before hand.

 

[R1rider]

what ever you do, take it easy on DNP. no cardio, stay cool and have the AC cranked up. depending on where you live, now might not be the best time to run it

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

I plan on running it in 6 weeks time, I 've got time off work then so I won't be sweating all over the place, can just focus on the cycle.
The rash is basically an allergic reaction to dnp, I really hope i don't get that because it would mean I would need to stop the cycle.

 

[aussieraven]

400mg sides like sweating will hit on day 3, day 5 you'll feel a bit of lethargy day 7 hunger kicks in (I assume from depleted glycogen stores)
600m and 800m I wont even go through these as they weren't worth it imo you end up eating more, not working out as much but burning the same as 400mg only you'll feel like absolute crap.

200mg from what I've experienced no side effects till day5 and it's very minimal, you can still do heavy cardio and workout normally especially if you're on AAS.I can go into further details for macros during each "experiment" and training routine if need be.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

The sides your describing are what I expected, how long did you cycle it for? and what were the results, bf% wise, at the end?
Also, diet wise I was going to maintain low carbs since I heard the sweating gets worse if you eat more carbs?

 

[DADAWG]

The sides your describing are what I expected, how long did you cycle it for? and what were the results, bf% wise, at the end?
Also, diet wise I was going to maintain low carbs since I heard the sweating gets worse if you eat more carbs?

you said cutting phase not cutting cycle , useing dnp when not on a cycle is a recipe to lose lean mass. IMO dont run dnp off cycle , especially is relatively lean to begin with.

 

[MN87]

you said cutting phase not cutting cycle , useing dnp when not on a cycle is a recipe to lose lean mass. IMO dont run dnp off cycle , especially is relatively lean to begin with.

There seems to be a lot of disagreement over this opinion. Not that I have any personal experience to add, just sayin' is all

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

you said cutting phase not cutting cycle , useing dnp when not on a cycle is a recipe to lose lean mass. IMO dont run dnp off cycle , especially is relatively lean to begin with.

This is interesting, most of the threads I've read have said dnp uses fat for energy, so you would lose only fat, plus water once your off it. In your experience is lean mass loss a real risk?
I should be close to single digits by the time I want to run it, will the lower amount of fat make dnp less effective or is it based on dose? So no chance of the 2-4bf% loss in a few weeks I keep reading about?

 

[aussieraven]

This is interesting, most of the threads I've read have said dnp uses fat for energy, so you would lose only fat, plus water once your off it. In your experience is lean mass loss a real risk?
I should be close to single digits by the time I want to run it, will the lower amount of fat make dnp less effective or is it based on dose? So no chance of the 2-4bf% loss in a few weeks I keep reading about?

You can lose lean mass if you're not on steroids, DNP burns fat.But it can also burn glycogen stores.Without AAS supporting you it'll break down proteins/Amino acids resulting in loss of muscle I dont care what others say this is what I believe.

800mg, could barely last 6days.Ended in 2kg weight loss (this was with no training and a 6kcalories diet)
600mg, worked out half the intensity if not less for about 9days.Results 3~kg weight loss with a 4kcalories diet
These two cycles I wasnt really looking to cut with it, more like to get a recomp effect as I ran test/tren and eating a shit ton of protein (BTW after both those cycles which I ran about a week apart, in that one month all my lifts increased about 40% and that was at the end of my cycle so go figure)

400mg I ran for 16days, this was to get rid of the excess fat I put on from a previous cycle.Dropped a total of 8KGs (think that's about 18lbs?) and that was without dropping the water weight which I still had.After all was done It was about 8.5kg weight loss with even more strength+muscle gains.Diet was 2.3k~3k calories with two training sessions everyday one for cardio one for lifting aiming for about 90minutes cardio a day and a heavy lifting session.I was also on AAS at the time, never want to risk losing my hard earned muscle running DNP. Muscle can be lost way faster than fat so why take the leap?

BTW my stats are 5'6 (170~ish cms) and 81.5kg (180lbs?) ( at the moment (12%~ ish BF)

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

But is their a difference between the lean mass lost on a clean cutting phase, and lean mass lost with dnp on a cutting phase? Does dnp worsen the situation?

I'm not going to go over 400mg regardless, I also train twice a day so I don't want it to effect my training too much. On your 16 day 400mg cycle what was the difference in bf% do you know? Your 12% now so what were you before the cycle?

Thanks for the info btw bro

 

[noway55]

But is their a difference between the lean mass lost on a clean cutting phase, and lean mass lost with dnp on a cutting phase? Does dnp worsen the situation?

I'm not going to go over 400mg regardless, I also train twice a day so I don't want it to effect my training too much. On your 16 day 400mg cycle what was the difference in bf% do you know? Your 12% now so what were you before the cycle?

Thanks for the info btw bro

IMO the faster your lose weight, the more of it is lean mass. There are obvious exceptions to this; if you're on gear you can get away with a lot more than you can naturally, but stupidly high deficits still aren't a good idea.

 

[MN87]

You can lose lean mass if you're not on steroids, DNP burns fat.But it can also burn glycogen stores.Without AAS supporting you it'll break down proteins/Amino acids resulting in loss of muscle I dont care what others say this is what I believe.

800mg, could barely last 6days.Ended in 2kg weight loss (this was with no training and a 6kcalories diet)
600mg, worked out half the intensity if not less for about 9days.Results 3~kg weight loss with a 4kcalories diet
These two cycles I wasnt really looking to cut with it, more like to get a recomp effect as I ran test/tren and eating a shit ton of protein (BTW after both those cycles which I ran about a week apart, in that one month all my lifts increased about 40% and that was at the end of my cycle so go figure)

400mg I ran for 16days, this was to get rid of the excess fat I put on from a previous cycle.Dropped a total of 8KGs (think that's about 18lbs?) and that was without dropping the water weight which I still had.After all was done It was about 8.5kg weight loss with even more strength+muscle gains.Diet was 2.3k~3k calories with two training sessions everyday one for cardio one for lifting aiming for about 90minutes cardio a day and a heavy lifting session.I was also on AAS at the time, never want to risk losing my hard earned muscle running DNP. Muscle can be lost way faster than fat so why take the leap?

BTW my stats are 5'6 (170~ish cms) and 81.5kg (180lbs?) ( at the moment (12%~ ish BF)

I got a bit confused reading your post. So, you actually ended up gaining strength when you ran DNP and AAS at the same time?

 

[aussieraven]

I got a bit confused reading your post. So, you actually ended up gaining strength when you ran DNP and AAS at the same time?

Yeah, while ON dnp strength stayed the same but a week after that most of the weight I lost got back on,only this time it wasn't fat.

I was 16%~ BF with a lot of water retention pre-DNP (I can easily retain 6kg~8kg of all water if I don't keep diet/roids/AI in check)