Was my bad experience with tren typical or likely bad gear?

[MuscleEngineer]

Hey guys, new here. Quick rundown i have ran 2 cycles as of today. First cycle being 16 weeks test enanthate @500mg a week and the second cycle was Test prop @ 600mg/week and Tren Ace @ 300mg a week. Both cycles i ran a cycle of post cycle therapy (pct) including nolva and clomid as well as arimidex on hand during cycle. I am 22, 5'8 and sit at about 175lbs right now lean enough to see vascularity through my inner thighs and a visible (yet flat) 6 pack of abs. When bulking i sit around 190 however on the Tren i found i got an amazingly painful experience with hard lumps beneath my nipples that swelled to the point of being marble sized despite running arimidex at 1mg alongside. I am curious if this was possibly the cause of some bad gear or if maybe this is a typical reaction to sensitive individuals. My research on the 'ology steroid profiles has come up with the conclusion that Tren should not have done this or at least not to this extent. My bloating was also insane and wasnt sure if this was all due to the Tren.
I was hoping to get some information from anyone who have had the same problem or have had more experience with Tren.
Thanks!

 

[Youngblood43]

It could have been from a number of diff things estrogen levels, prolactin levels ect. doesn't sound like its fromthe gear

 

[MeatHead96]

Could be a number of factors. One could be your arimidex was bunk. Two could be that it was prolactin related and you were not running caber or prami with it. This is why I like to run tren higher than test. Less aromatizing and easier to control e2 and prolactin. I always run caber .5 twice a week with tren.

 

[couch]

Prolactin problem. You need cabergoline. .50 e3d.

Tren is magical. Your experience is due to your not understanding how to work with it.

 

[noway55]

You ran tren without knowing it's a good idea to have prami or caber on hand?

 

[MuscleEngineer]

research in forums, articles, and opinions based on experience from the "older" lifters brought me to the conclusion that caber was not a necessity, not all info pointed this way just most of what i had found so i decided against it. My source is a friend and my neighbor so i had immediate access usually but i had read that masteron could be used to help combat, i used it in low doses and it really helped, bringing the swelling down to nothing.
Dont think i went into it without research (ive read multiple forums for the past 6 years as well as reading through any books or journals i could get my hand onto)
Thats why i finally joined a forum so i can have all you guys at my disposal, so thanks guys ill run caber next time and see how that works out!

 

[couch]

but i had read that masteron could be used to help combat, i used it in low doses and it really helped, bringing the swelling down to nothing.

Masteron is a mild aromatase inhibitor. It has no anti-prolactin effect. But don't take my word for it, look it up yourself:

http://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB00858

 

[MuscleEngineer]

oh yes im aware that masteron was not suited for my problem, im just saying it worked, and it did so wonderfully(at least for the nips). This is another reason i thought my current source may not have truly reliable gear (unless of course it makes any sense at all for the masteron to work as well as it did). At the time i admit i got scared and i got worried and i got less rational. I should have grabbed caber but i didn't, end result was fine by me but i learned my lesson; i never want those nipples back lol.
live and learn i guess.
Ill give it another go with the caber, if problems arise regardless of preparation ill just have to go source hunting!

 

[bluesp]

you need some caber mate or some prami.

 

[couch]

live and learn i guess.
Ill give it another go with the caber, if problems arise regardless of preparation ill just have to go source hunting!

Yeah. Well, at least you are prepared for next time. I would say that some people just don't get along with tren. It's too bad, but it happens. Me, I'd put it on my cereal in the morning if I could.

 

[MuscleEngineer]

Lol! I hope i can fall in love with tren as much as it seems most guys have. Thanks all

 

[PinnHead]

You need to put your TREN dosage HIGHER than your test, you are one of those guys that it just simply works better for cause you are having PROLACTIN problems!!! Get some Caber, reduce your dosage of test to 300 weekly and Tren at 600 weekly.
Arimidex wouldn't affect this problem!
Sounds like good strong tren and too much free test on account the tren is GOOD and binding ALLLLL the receptors up and now test is free floating with NOWHERE to go!!!