Week 9 600mg Test cycle. Question for the vets......

testX

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I dont post a lot but lurk and respect all the knowledge here. Looking for some feedback on my current cycle.

This is my 2nd cycle and im in my 9th week.


Started running:

600mg EW of Test Cyp, 2 pins per week

1000 mcg Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) EW, 2 500 pins

Adex 3mg per week

GHRP 3 GHRP 6 Sermorlein mix take 100mcg 3x day


Pre cycle had been cruising 100-200 per week test. Wanted to up the dose of Test since I love it so much and last week bumped it up to 900mg 3x pin per week.-20

Was using high volume workout. CHest/back, Arms/shoulders, legs, repeat.....off sunday. 16-20 sets for large body legs, back, chest. 9-12 for arms and shoulders.

High Protein, High Carb low fat everyday. Oats, Sweet potato, brown rice, white rice, chicken breast, whey, 4 oz beef at dinner.
378 carbs, 370 ish protein 50 fat
230lbs 18-20%bf


Now for the questions



Starting in week 5 after arm workout I was getting great pumps and over the next few days my hands would fall asleep if I didnt keep my hands down. Especially when I sleep as I put my hands under the pillow. Then pain showed up below my right tricep toward the inside of the arm. The pain is always there but obviously worse on arms. The falling asleep hands got to the point in week 7 that I couldnt sleep very well because it would keep waking me up.

Last week gave blood and Hemoglobin was 18. They were like wow....but let me donate. BP has been around 130-140 and 64-70.

After donating the hand numbness is 100x better so I assume the thick blood combined with enlarging arm muscles was cutting off circulation.

My forarms cramp up also now, like a feeling of not enough water. So this week the pumps have been crap and I have had less energy then I should on 900mg of test.

I constantly go back and forth with the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose. At first I thought the elbow pain was not enough E but now im thinking maybe that was just so much volume of work and E could be high. Im getting full bloodwork Thursday to check.

So the question is.....sounds like high E is the problem or body burning out from constantly going up in weight and strength combined with heavy volume? I have switched to each body part once a week and I am debating resting until next week to let my body heal and catch up....

Any thoughts would be helpful
 
Hey testX,

Honestly, I can never understand the ranges that folks post. Did you cruise at 100 or 200? Which one is it?

370 grams of protein? That's 130 grams more than you need considering your stats. Your kidneys are likely suffering severely, backed up and your BUN is too high and BUN/Creatinine ratio is probably over 25. Only a man with over 285 lean pounds needs than much protein.

Ono thursday, you really need a complete CBC, CMP, Lipids and a sensitive E2 assay.

Playing yoyo with your arimidex dosage without blood work is dangerous.

There are too many factors (including your stats, which are unsafe for cycling) to determine what the issue is.
 
Sorry if I sounded harsh, but you're being very irresponsible towards yourself. Hate to see you get hurt.

I understand what you are saying. The variance in doses was more to find what works for me. Started testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) because of low Test and moved the dose around 100-200 PW trying to find what works best.

Same thing with Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose. I keep going back and forth thinking its to much or not enough but the only way to know if with bloodwork while on......

One thing I have always noticed is the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) gives me way more water bloat than any amount of test. I really hate that shit but notice a difference in sperm count among other things without it.



The protein makes sense but I feel like I dont eat enough as it is.....Calories in general I mean. Trying to stick to only clean foods without oils and im still hungry, im sure its all in my head though.
 
Well it the problem is definitely high Estro........


Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum >1500 HIGH 348-1197 ng/dL BN
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL BN
FSH, Serum
FSH <0.2 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL BN
Estradiol
Estradiol 88.7 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL BN


WBC 9.5 4.0-10.5 x10E3/uL BN
RBC 5.69 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL BN
Hemoglobin 16.8 12.6-17.7 g/dL BN
Hematocrit 50.1 37.5-51.0 % BN
MCV 88 79-97 fL BN
MCH 29.5 26.6-33.0 pg BN
MCHC 33.5 31.5-35.7 g/dL BN
RDW 12.9 12.3-15.4 % BN
Platelets 227 140-415 x10E3/uL BN
Neutrophils 63 40-74 % BN
Lymphs 23 14-46 % BN
Monocytes 10 4-13 % BN
Eos 4 0-7 % BN
Basos 0 0-3 % BN
Neutrophils (Absolute) 6.1 1.8-7.8 x10E3/uL BN
Lymphs (Absolute) 2.2 0.7-4.5 x10E3/uL BN
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.9 0.1-1.0 x10E3/uL BN
Eos (Absolute) 0.3 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL BN
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL BN
Immature Granulocytes 0 0-2 % BN
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL BN
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 79 65-99 mg/dL BN
BUN 19 6-20 mg/dL BN
Creatinine, Serum 1.02 0.76-1.27 mg/dL BN
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 99 >59 mL/min/1.73 BN
eGFR If Africn Am 114 >59 mL/min/1.73 BN
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 19 8-19 BN
Sodium, Serum 139 134-144 mmol/L BN
Potassium, Serum 4.3 3.5-5.2 mmol/L BN
Chloride, Serum 100 97-108 mmol/L BN
Carbon Dioxide, Total 27 19-28 mmol/L BN
Calcium, Serum 8.9 8.7-10.2 mg/dL BN
Protein, Total, Serum 6.5 6.0-8.5 g/dL BN
Albumin, Serum 4.1 3.5-5.5 g/dL BN
Globulin, Total 2.4 1.5-4.5 g/dL BN
A/G Ratio 1.7 1.1-2.5 BN
Bilirubin, Total 0.6 0.0-1.2 mg/dL BN
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 52 44-102 IU/L BN
 
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