What are your preferences?

Tegre1

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Hey guys just another question, do you think it is better to bunch up the muscle or stretch it with your fingers? Also do you prefer plunging the needle into your muscle quickly to get it over with or take some time getting it in? Because when I was taking my nursing classes they say you should bunch up the patients muscle and give a quick dart with needle then leave it I. For a few seconds before aspirating. Yet when I am doing this to myself I get muscle twitches and quite a bit of pain during injection. I've hear many people on here say that you should stretch your muscles between your fingers and go slowly. Just wanted to know what you thought. Thanks for the feedback
 
Not a good idea in my opinion to pinch the area being injected. Also not a good idea to flex, either. Darting is such a rough term. 1 second per inch is a good rule.

Most of the compounds injected by RN's share 2 characteristics that we need to ignore:

1. Most are water based, so if they land subQ, it's fine.
2. Most are not harmful if accidentally injected intravenously. Hence why most RN's don't aspirate.
 
Agree bunching or squeezing injection site is not an ideal thing to do, I use the ztrack method when injecting sites that allow me to use both hands. Speed of injection should be done at a speed your comfortable with, usually about 2 seconds for me as I like to have it in quick enough. I wouldn't dart or jab unless you are extremely comfortable with pinpointing injection spots.
 
That makes sense, I always go quads and take it slow now. Only a few times I have gone in the flute and when I dart there is no twitch or anything. I wonder why, but it seems I'm not the only one.
 
That makes sense, I always go quads and take it slow now. Only a few times I have gone in the flute and when I dart there is no twitch or anything. I wonder why, but it seems I'm not the only one.

Oh no. Not the flute. :p - Unless your compound is Trimix.
 
Oh no. Not the flute. :p - Unless your compound is Trimix.

I pinned the quad last night for the first time and as i was going in, i hit a hard spot. pushed a little harder, and dam, my muscle started spasming, the pin was jumping around like a dam acupuncture needle on high voltage.

I had to take it out and have another crack... What the hell caused this? Was it because i was going too slow?
 
Hey guys just another question, do you think it is better to bunch up the muscle or stretch it with your fingers? Also do you prefer plunging the needle into your muscle quickly to get it over with or take some time getting it in? Because when I was taking my nursing classes they say you should bunch up the patients muscle and give a quick dart with needle then leave it I. For a few seconds before aspirating. Yet when I am doing this to myself I get muscle twitches and quite a bit of pain during injection. I've hear many people on here say that you should stretch your muscles between your fingers and go slowly. Just wanted to know what you thought. Thanks for the feedback

for me and what i rec:
swab and relax muscle
put in needle slowly watching for any unusual pain (after a few cycles you will know what I mean) or w/e ( for me about 10-20 sec of inserting the needle)
aspirate ( i highly rec it) and then slowly push oil in, about 30sec-1min.

I dont rush the pinning, and yes I do hate pinning, but slow and steady is safer and less painful IMO.
 
I pinned the quad last night for the first time and as i was going in, i hit a hard spot. pushed a little harder, and dam, my muscle started spasming, the pin was jumping around like a dam acupuncture needle on high voltage.

I had to take it out and have another crack... What the hell caused this? Was it because i was going too slow?

I go slowest on quads, so I doubt it was going too slow, you hit a nerve likely and it caused a twitch. I have had that happen there an also in delts, glutes too a think but not much. its rare, for me atleast, to get the twitch. other than 1 or two twitches. but what you describe sounds like a hit nerve.
 
I always go at a slight angle on quads. If you feel like your shaking or need to aspirate just let the needle hang. You won't pull or drag it through the muscle this way.
 
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