what else is needed with gear...

[nudibar]

plan to become a more active member..

i plan on being a more active member, glad i joined this forum and enjoy reading all the threads. i plan to share my experiences with members also, so i started my cycle this week:

10 weeks:
200 mg of eq a week 1-10
200 mg of test cyp a week 1-10
200 mg of tren a week 3-7
6 foot 2 inches about 240 pounds

what else should i be taking daily and weekly to promote good health
and the max effect of my cycle? vitamins, anti-estrogens, specific protein?
not my first cycle but i want this one to be the smartest and safest, i would like to do this completely right!!

any input would help
thanx all, al

 

[FuckOprah]

uhm, whats your goals for this cycle? cuz dosages seem pretty low, do u have your post cycle therapy (pct) lined up?

 

[rocko419]

O boy bro if your asking that question then do you think your readdy to do a cycle and with Tren in it to boot? You say this is not your first cycle but is it? It sounds like it is. YOur asking now if you should have an anti-estrogen? Dam buddy are you nuts? And I say that with love and I don't even know you. What will you do if you start showing signs of gyno? You have nothing on hand incase? Do you have a post cycle therapy (pct) ? (clomid)..Just asking buddy. I hope I misunderstood you and you do have ai's on hand. Or even better I hope you would never need it. And fuckoprah said it first. Your doses what's up with those? 200mg of EQ you might as well just not even do it and save it cuzz 200mg? Not gonna do it. You need atleast 400 to 600mg EW to see that stuff worke... And 200mg of test? Idono... I just dono about your hole cycle. I just don;t know what to say. Me I would have dropped that tren for another day and uped that test to 500mg EW and 400 to 600 EW of the EQ. I would guess if this is not your first cycle then it's your second cycle and the questions that your asking are very good and good for you for asking them. The only thing you should have asked before your cycle started. But just the same bud Good luck and be safe. And O ya Welcome to Ology

 

[zephyrdaz]

I agree with Rocko, that cycle is terrible, dosages are far to low, you obviously do not have enough experience to be doing Tren and why would you want to do weeks 3-7 only ??

Smartest and safest and you want to do this completely right?, just do a nice simple one Test E/C 500mg for 12 weeks and if it's not your first cycle, then kickstart it with 40mg dbol ED week 1-6. Get Nolva (PCT and gyno) and get Clomid (PCT)

You have asked what vitamins and proteins, well that's an easy one, lots of food. I'd post your daily diet up in the diet forum and get advice there in regards to that.

 

[nudibar]

first of all, i appreciate all of your guys input and dont take it in a bad way
thanx for the support, i understand that my doses need to be a little higher but i dont want to get too big, i just want to gain a lil more harder muscle and maybe lean out. i'm def going to get on the clomid game, just felt that it wasnt necassary but it seems to be part of it, i have done gear before..just never learned about the maintaining aspect of it, where can i get nolva and clomid. maybe something similiar in gnc! i assumed that the dosages were appropriate for not getting too huge!

-its good to have people out there with the
same physical enjoyment, who love the gym life
i try to live and learn,
all input is respected and put to use! -al

 

[zephyrdaz]

first of all, i appreciate all of your guys input and dont take it in a bad way
thanx for the support, i understand that my doses need to be a little higher but i dont want to get too big, i just want to gain a lil more harder muscle and maybe lean out. i'm def going to get on the clomid game, just felt that it wasnt necassary but it seems to be part of it, i have done gear before..just never learned about the maintaining aspect of it, where can i get nolva and clomid. maybe something similiar in gnc! i assumed that the dosages were appropriate for not getting too huge!

-its good to have people out there with the
same physical enjoyment, who love the gym life
i try to live and learn,
all input is respected and put to use! -al

Don't take what we have said in a bad way, we're just trying to help out. Really you going about it the wrong way to gain a little more harder muscle. The Test dosage is really to low (200mg is below maintenance level for me), the EQ dosage you have stated is next to useless (your just throwing your money away for nothing on it) and really, if you don't have very good experience of post cycle therapy (pct) and steroids in general, you should not do the Tren.

As to PCT, I live in the UK and where I get things from will be different from you, I don't know about gnc very much, but I don't think you get meds from there. I think one of the sponsors on this site is the place to get them Researchology.

If it's just lean muscle you want then adjust your diet and training and still run a simple Test cycle of 300-400mg a week.

PCT is essential, read up about it on the newbie section on this site.

 

[dialtone]

i agree with zephyr and rocko...double or triple your doses of test and eq, up it a couple wks, drop the tren, get some anti es and fuck supplements, just eat real food. i know that you say you dont want to put on too much weight, but once it starts kicking in, you wont want it to stop. and again, those doses aren't going to do shit. listen to zephyr.

 

[mrfreeze982]

You sound like where I was about 8 months ago. Look into everything people are saying on here and google the shit out of it. NO you CANNOT get clomid at GCN it is a perscription drug, however your supplier of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) should have a source but once again you CANNOT ask for sources on here. You are a big boy so up your dosage to what these guys are saying. Read everything about the drug, know exactly how many esters are in the test you want to take. Even if you just take 500mg Test E and EQ with a good diet you will come out looking hard, with a great diet you will look better. Tren is hard on the body but effective, not recommended as a beginner drug. Use the little google search bar in the top left of the screen and read educate yourself before you put anything into your body. Good Luck

 

[BakedBeans]

A good diet, and solid knowledge of training.

A little knowledege of the actual compounds you are using would also help.

 

[jonk430]

I agree with Rocko, that cycle is terrible, dosages are far to low, you obviously do not have enough experience to be doing Tren and why would you want to do weeks 3-7 only ??

Smartest and safest and you want to do this completely right?, just do a nice simple one Test E/C 500mg for 12 weeks and if it's not your first cycle, then kickstart it with 40mg dbol ED week 1-6. Get Nolva (PCT and gyno) and get Clomid (PCT)

You have asked what vitamins and proteins, well that's an easy one, lots of food. I'd post your daily diet up in the diet forum and get advice there in regards to that.

Could not agree more.... Dosages are very low. Maybe you should go simple with a test e and possible D-bol. And eat! eat! eat!

 

[Strong One]

Well ... it doesn't sounds like a Bulking Cycle & the dose is very very low, so i believe this cycle will never give you a real gains you are looking for .... i mean, it will never even give you the Hard Look in your muscle groups, coz as every one said to you .... it's very low Doses .... but whatever .... you can use Whey protein without Carbs & with very low fat, Vitamins B complex,Vitamin C & Vitamin D, coz you will need it for your skin .... Good luck

 

[big12]

Do a lot more reading and asking around the board. Some of the bros might sound a little harsh, but most are knowledgable and are trying to help. When you do decide to start a cycle, start simple like others have said with just test.

 

[rocko419]

The dose one takes is very important. To little of a dose is very important. To high of a dose is obviously very important...Zeff gave you the propper dose..And let me second what MRFREEZE said NO you can not get post cycle therapy (pct) at GNC.. That's Funny bro...And also you to are scaring me.....know what your doing before you do it or else you may verry well be very sorry you diden't. Things can happen to a man on the juice and if your not readdy for it you can be one fuced up dude. So be carefull....And good luck...