What some advice in regards to research with T3 and/or Clen

[Havasu]

So, my mice are already pretty lean. They were tested at 8.3%-8.5% yesterday. I would like to get them a bit leaner before attempting a research study to add size to them. Getting down to 5% or so would be fantastic, maybe lower if possible?

What I want to know is in this instance with mice that are relatively lean, would low doses of RUI's T3 and Clen be a good way to go about this. I'm talk about no more than 40mcg of clen, and 10mcg-20mcg of T3 with a 2 days on 2 days off protocol. Would you recommend higher doses, and for how long of a cycle? Or, could I accomplish the desired results with just Clen by itself at higher doses maybe 60mcg-80mcg with the same sort of protocol, since Clen is more muscle sparing than T3? Or, would you recommend T3, at what dose, and just upping my protein?

I appreciate the input!

 

[DreDay187]

So, my mice are already pretty lean. They were tested at 8.3%-8.5% yesterday. I would like to get them a bit leaner before attempting a research study to add size to them. Getting down to 5% or so would be fantastic, maybe lower if possible?

What I want to know is in this instance with mice that are relatively lean, would low doses of RUI's T3 and Clen be a good way to go about this. I'm talk about no more than 40mcg of clen, and 10mcg-20mcg of T3 with a 2 days on 2 days off protocol. Would you recommend higher doses, and for how long of a cycle? Or, could I accomplish the desired results with just Clen by itself at higher doses maybe 60mcg-80mcg with the same sort of protocol, since Clen is more muscle sparing than T3? Or, would you recommend T3, at what dose, and just upping my protein?

I appreciate the input!

You'll probably require more than 40mcg of clen. Start at 40mcg and work your way up to find your limit. I started high and got severe cramping bc of too high a dose. Also take it with either Ketotifen or Benadryl. If using Ketotifen you can use it indefinitely and with Benadryl go 2wks on 2wks off. With clen you'll also want to take 3-10g of taurine a day and drink plenty of water and electrolytes.

T3 would be a waste at 10-20mcg. Your thyroid produces around 25mcg a day. Austinite has a formula for T3. It's .63xBW I believe in micrograms not to exceed 125-150mcg/day. T3 is catabolic so it should be ran while on a cycle or at minimum a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose of test.

 

[Havasu]

Great info Dre. Thank you. So, as part of the study could I pair a SARM with T3, would that be sufficient?

Also, with the results I'm looking to be achieved, do you believe they can be achieved with Clen/Keto alone?

One other questions is as you ramp up the dose of clen, or T3, is it best to take the entire dose at once, or split it up into a few throughout the day. From what I have read splitting up is needed with Clen, but I'm not sure with T3. With Keto I've read it should be taken before bed. I would imagine the clen, or T3 should be taken early in the day to avoid any sleep issues.