What to add to TEST E for bulking?

[Caparison336]

Thanks China Wall. I'm going to take a break and do my post cycle therapy (pct) in a couple weeks. What would you suggest as a real cycle?

 

[Caparison336]

i think you meant var, not tren hehe. If you get legit Anavar from a place like Pinn it is noticable. I could see if taking tren it could be more subtle because your strength is flying anyway.

Yes haha. I meant the Anavar (var). The Tren there was no denying I noticed it and the results were awesome but I think next time I'd like to try something different. And believe me, if I had access to Pinn I totally would...I don't really trust the stuff I've been getting.

 

[China_Wall]

Thanks China Wall. I'm going to take a break and do my PCT in a couple weeks. What would you suggest as a real cycle?

a "real" cycle would be one with a plan... a plan u will stick to (ie dosages stay put from start to finish)

one thing I forgot to comment on was the point u made about not getting enough sleep... then u cut your test dosage down instead of addressing the real problem, which was the TREN

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hey guys,

I'm currently on cycle, 15 weeks in and just on TEST E 500mg/w right now. I find that the results just seem to be getting better now. I started off running Tren E @400mg/w, Test E @ 300mg/w and Anavar (var) at 50mg/day for 11 weeks and would like to keep going. I got a fairly good body recomposition off this but the Tren is just not for me. I really couldn't sleep much and besides some strength gains and tons of sweating I didnt really enjoy it too much.

I was contemplating grabbing more Test E and possibly some Deca or Primo...I'm looking to put on some more lean mass and try to keep my bodyfat roughly where it is now.

Any suggestions?

Oh and by the way this is my second cycle, i"ve been getting my health monitored by the doc and everything is perfect. A little bit of gyno flare up but controlling it with Adex. And i'm not interested in Dbol. I'm looking to extend by 12-15 weeks and then do my PCT and stay off for a while and cut without gear in the spring.

I appreciate your input.

Also I'm 29 yrs old, 5'9" and 220 at 14%bf and my doc said i have naturally low T

let me get this right:
1) only second cycle
2) using tren
3) Not even talking about pct at wk15
3) already on week 15 and thinking of going for many more months blindly thinking its OK and SAFE because your CERRENT health is givin an OK from the doc?


If i am right, I dont think this game is for you. your ARE goung to be hurt.

Good luck

 

[juced_porkchop]

a "real" cycle would be one with a plan... a plan u will stick to (ie dosages stay put from start to finish)

one thing I forgot to comment on was the point u made about not getting enough sleep... then u cut your test dosage down instead of addressing the real problem, which was the TREN

agreed makes no sence

 

[juced_porkchop]

Bro if I were you I would just add in EQ and run it for LOOOOONG time. Anavar is great to add in too. EQ really helps overall by giving more stamina, faster recovery, strength gains, size gains, increased appetite, and slight fat burning it seems. I love EQ and the best part is side effects are almost non existent with EQ

I think EQ ia crap and you get more out of test +ai at half the cost, time and feels better.

 

[juced_porkchop]

To be honest, I think I had fake Anavar (var) ...I didn't notice a damn thing. The test and tren were for sure legit but the tren...i burned through 3 bottles and didn't notice any difference at all. Unless my body doesn't respond to it or the Tren made the effects unnoticeable. But I've heard that the UGL I get is kinda sketchy

dude you uses Anavar (var) with tren..... thats like drinking a bottle fo vodca and expecting to feel the 2 beers you had....

use Anavar (var) on its own with test maybe next time.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Thanks China Wall. I'm going to take a break and do my PCT in a couple weeks. What would you suggest as a real cycle?

Real cycle when ready:

wk1-14 teste 500mg ew
wk1-14 maste 300-400mg ew
wk1-5 30mg dbol ed


thats a decent one

 

[Jack Tors]

dude, your test dosage was up and down like a newlywed's thong... take a break, do a proper pct of clomid/nolva and then start a real cycle in 3 mths or so

haha

 

[Caparison336]

Thanks guys and Juice Porkchop for your opinion. I'm still learning about the cycling obviously. I really appreciate your input. I am starting post cycle therapy (pct) this weekend with Nolva and Clomid. Going to take the next few months off and probably start up around Christmas time again.

Next time I'll probably run as Juiced Porkchop suggested and stick with the dosages:

wk1-14 teste 500mg ew
wk1-14 maste 300-400mg ew
wk1-5 30mg dbol ed

Do you think it would be beneficial to try another oral rather than dbol? or is dbol pretty well the best for jacking up strength and size on a bulk out of all the other orals?

 

[Grizzy]

Dbol is the best oral "bulker". Tbol will get you a leaner type result (no bloat)

 

[SquadLeader]

If you are wanting to bulk the most important thing is your diet. A good steroid you could use for a lean bulk is Oral Turinabol.

 

[kingsfandave]

Dbol

 

[rowdybrad]

The boys above are right on with the Dbol!

 

[Caparison336]

Haha alright. Guess it's time to find a more reliable lab and get some quality dbol then.

 

[Cirrus]

If your from Canada, you defenitely need to check our Andomeds Labs.

Cirrus

 

[miguel7]

Theres one answer here and one only ANADROL. Hands down your best bet. He wanted best thing not 20 differants variations. You beleive any that info you just posted , some good, some in left field. Point blank anadrol son.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Thanks guys and Juice Porkchop for your opinion. I'm still learning about the cycling obviously. I really appreciate your input. I am starting PCT this weekend with Nolva and Clomid. Going to take the next few months off and probably start up around Christmas time again.

Next time I'll probably run as Juiced Porkchop suggested and stick with the dosages:

wk1-14 teste 500mg ew
wk1-14 maste 300-400mg ew
wk1-5 30mg dbol ed

Do you think it would be beneficial to try another oral rather than dbol? or is dbol pretty well the best for jacking up strength and size on a bulk out of all the other orals?

Your welcome!
Happy I could help.

if you want extra water bloat (and in muscle) then dbol or drol. if you want same sort of effect (growth) without the water get Tbol or maybe SD. *keep in mind orals are liver toxic and hard on blood, i try to avoid them*

drol makes you feel like shit (atleast me and many others) so i say Tbol or Dbol.

if you want big gains its goign to take morethen 5 weeks and orals should not be used as long as orals, so i rec focus more in injects, less on for me i dont ever bother to buy them anymore. if i have some or get some for free i may use it.
I would rec tbol or dbol...

 

[Caparison336]

If your from Canada, you defenitely need to check our Andomeds Labs.

Cirrus

I cerainly would love to check out Andromeds but I don't have the postcount for pm's yet or a reference. Wouldn't even know how to find the place.

 

[Caparison336]

Your welcome!
Happy I could help.

if you want extra water bloat (and in muscle) then dbol or drol. if you want same sort of effect (growth) without the water get Tbol or maybe SD. *keep in mind orals are liver toxic and hard on blood, i try to avoid them*

drol makes you feel like shit (atleast me and many others) so i say Tbol or Dbol.

if you want big gains its goign to take morethen 5 weeks and orals should not be used as long as orals, so i rec focus more in injects, less on for me i dont ever bother to buy them anymore. if i have some or get some for free i may use it.
I would rec tbol or dbol...

Yeah, I probably wouldn't run an oral more than 4 weeks. Just as a kickstart and I plan on running Arimidex as well concurrently to keep the bloat to a minimum. Some bloat is fine but I don't want to blow up 20 lbs in 2 weeks and feel like shit like I did with the dbol on my first cycle.