What to suspend viagra or cialis in?

[BigRonWannabee]

Thats the funnt thing with letro, I use 33% PG to mix it up (note - NOT PEG). Its dosed so low and clumps so easily that you cant really suspend it. Its solution or bust. I believe IBE uses much of the same ideology.

 

[Skarhead1]

rjh and pullin big turned me on to the olive oil... its not 100% accurate but who gies a shit??

 

[BigRonWannabee]

Not for letro m'boy. I mean have at it, but if you want +/- a FULL ass dose, go right ahead.

 

[Skarhead1]

well i dont use letro ne how

 

[BigRonWannabee]

nor do I. I debated not carrying it because I really dont believe in it. But it has its place for ditch effort gyno problems. Which of course could be prevented SO many fucking ways anyhow.

 

[Skarhead1]

ill aree with ya... just clomid/aromasin post cycle therapy (pct) for me... and i use proviron throughout all my cycles now and im not even prone to gyno so.... ya know

 

[BigRonWannabee]

id suggest dropping the proviron in favor of aromasin for a cycle...see how you do. Proviron will compete for the AR, and lower SHBG. Aromasin lowers SHBG too (through multiple pathways) but doesnt give a fuck about the AR, so you have more free gear to bind to more AR's. Good stuff.

 

[Skarhead1]

Everywhere I read proviron frees up more test??? Thats the only reason why I'm on it otherwise I wouldnt run any anti e's ,... I love water

 

[GymLift]

Here you go girls:


25mg/ml Cialis

80% PEG400
18% Everclear
2% Peppermint Oil

Do the research companies most likely use PEG400 for this?

I like the idea of doing the ED drugs as liquid orals because

1. Common sense dictates that it'll be effective slightly faster ... even if only by a few minutes
2. Easier to vary dosing while I figure out my best dosage

Not a fan of putting Viagra in oil because the oil slows the absorption for Viagra. And in my case, I think fat+Viagra might cause another problem that I've had. Not sure if the affects Cialis or not.

And whenever ya'all say 'Everclear', are you referring to 151 proof alcohol or 190 proof?

Finally, I think that the peppermint extract at the grocery isn't an oil, but I know that peppermint extract oil is available elsewhere. I wonder if either can be used.

ctd-research sells flavor 'extracts.' anyone know if those are the same as what is at the grocery?

Wish I still had some pure sucralose available as a sweetner.

 

[Skarhead1]

Everywhere I read proviron frees up more test??? Thats the only reason why I'm on it otherwise I wouldnt run any anti e's ,... I love water

bump

 

[GymLift]

Everywhere I read proviron frees up more test???

It does. I don't believe that Proviron actually lowers SHBG. Rather, it binds to it. Every time a proviron molecule binds to a SHBG molecule, then that SHBG molecule isn't available to bind to a testosterone molecule.

SHBG basically inactivates the molecule it binds to.

Testosterone is generally cheaper than Proviron, so I have to wonder if it makes more sense to simply use more testsoterone.

Anyway, regardless of the science, what matters is what works best and perhaps what is the most cost effective.

It is difficult to tell how many of the positive reports from Proviron have more to do with the placebo effect. That is, perhaps the Proviron helps, but not as much as the user believes it is.

 

[Skarhead1]

i have it... my sex drive is up and i have probably lost 2-3 lb of water for the past 2 wk ive been on it.. also, im a powder guy.. its cheap

 

[GymLift]

According to Bill Roberts:

This drug has good binding to the androgen receptor, but in muscle tissue most of it never reaches the androgen receptor because it is enzymatically converted to the diol. Thus, it is not an effective anabolic.

Thus, perhaps the fact that it can bind to the androgen receptor isn't a problem.

Hell, if it did make it to the AR in muscle, it might even be a decent anabolic. We don't really know.

 

[Skarhead1]

Good tid bit right there. This is what I thought as well

 

[BigRonWannabee]

Good to know mranak thanks for finding that. Ill have to do some more research myself.

 

[simpllyhuge]

how do i account for the powder volume when mixing viagra with oil. how do i know how much oil to leave out to account for the room the powder takes up? thnaks

 

[BigRonWannabee]

A good approximation is 1 gram of powder takes up 0.8ml volume.

 

[simpllyhuge]

in every powder or just viagra.

 

[BigRonWannabee]

Most powders. Obviously this is an approiximation. If you want to be sure, fill the bottle your going to use with whatever total volume of lquid you want to end up with (use a large syringe). Mark the line at the bottom of the miniscus with a fine tipped sharpy. Empty the water, put in the V powder and add whatever carrier liquid you want up to the line. Badabing - 99% accuarcy, 1% effort.

 

[simpllyhuge]

ahh i get it. thanks lol. i guess im gonna throw viagra is olive oil. can i do the same for aromasin?