what to use as kickstart when on test e

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Yurek

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starting Test E in a mouhnt from now, what kickstart would be usual to go with test e?

my plan:
1-4 (kickstart oral) <- what to use? oppinions?
1-11 Test E 750mg/w (split 2xW)

And yessssss.. i have a hair loss fetish

I was thinking of Winstrol (winny), but Winstrol (winny) make my hair shred like crazy, so im staying away from winstrol. (hair loss is a concern)
annyone have other ideas?

for me.. im thinking of anavar, dbol?(never had experience with dbol tough)

By the way.. i have like 8 bottles of nizoral ketoconazol 2% at hand

Cheers
 
most people use dbol or anadrol for a kickstart if the goal is mass, ana Anavar (var) takes too long to kick in, so it defeats the purpose of a kickstart, tbol or Anavar (var) would be a good choice as a finisher.
Go with dbol.
 
Ive used dianabol when bulking the effects are instant. Cutting I've used tren n test p so there's no need for a kicker. 6 weeks is what I do though with dianabol!
 
Yurek said:
starting Test E in a mouhnt from now, what kickstart would be usual to go with test e?

my plan:
1-4 (kickstart oral) <- what to use? oppinions?
1-11 Test E 750mg/w (split 2xW)

And yessssss.. i have a hair loss fetish

I was thinking of Winstrol (winny), but Winstrol (winny) make my hair shred like crazy, so im staying away from winstrol. (hair loss is a concern)
annyone have other ideas?

for me.. im thinking of anavar, dbol?(never had experience with dbol tough)

By the way.. i have like 8 bottles of nizoral ketoconazol 2% at hand

Cheers
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Shitting on your joints and weakening your tendons is not something you want to do to kickstart a test cycle, so DO NOT START IT WITH Winstrol (winny) lol
Winny is A pre contest drug and overrated in my opinion.

Tbol or Dbol brother.

Var is more of a finishing compound to throw in the end of your cycle.

Also don't forget your NAC :)

Best of luck
 
I vote t-bol also. 75mg ed with 50mg one hour before workout and 25mg later in the day. 4 weeks should be plenty
 
KingBF said:
I vote t-bol also. 75mg ed with 50mg one hour before workout and 25mg later in the day. 4 weeks should be plenty
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There is no need to take it pre workout or even split the dose for that matter, tbol has a 16hr half life, so it doesnt make a fuck off a difference when you take it, i personally take them all in morning, used to split them up but i find it pointless.
 
i love me an SD kickstart. SD isnt for everyone but personally i love the stuff. i never run more then 20mg a day and dont experience any of the usual sides everyone else gets @ 30mg a day. just awesome gains
 
hehe thanks alot for the advice guys, can i also do prop as kickstart? u got me confused here...
its for a bulking cycle so id rather go dbol, only thing is.. hair loss thats making me doubt about it.. thinking of 1-4wk 50mg dbol
 
Yurek said:
hehe thanks alot for the advice guys, can i also do prop as kickstart? u got me confused here...
its for a bulking cycle so id rather go dbol, only thing is.. hair loss thats making me doubt about it.. thinking of 1-4wk 50mg dbol
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soo your running a test only cycle for bulking.. however we mention a different ester and you get confused??

esters don't change the chemical just changes how long of a half life...

with Dbol you'll lose most of the gains because its just bloat.. w. test prop it'd be like you ran test for the full cycle at high serum levels instead of having to wait 5 weeks.
 
Protobuilder69 said:
There is no need to take it pre workout or even split the dose for that matter, tbol has a 16hr half life, so it doesnt make a fuck off a difference when you take it, i personally take them all in morning, used to split them up but i find it pointless.
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So your saying that everybody is different...cool beans, but As I stated from my experience I get the best results preworkout and later in the day.
 
Chicago712 said:
soo your running a test only cycle for bulking.. however we mention a different ester and you get confused??

esters don't change the chemical just changes how long of a half life...

with Dbol you'll lose most of the gains because its just bloat.. w. test prop it'd be like you ran test for the full cycle at high serum levels instead of having to wait 5 weeks.
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I kickstarted with prop before and it was a hassle. my pinning schedule was totally fucked. you end up pinning 5-6 times a week
 
Still a rookie, but I'm on 500mg ew of test e and just finished my first 6 week dbol cycle. The results are nuts, it's ridiculous how much it helps kickstart a cycle. Gained 22 lbs and strength is way up. Didn't experience any unusual hair shedding at all. My only issue was that it would sometimes give me lower back pain...even during light cardio....sometimes bad enough so that I would have to sit/lay down for a few minutes. I started at only 40mg ed, and ended up dropping to 30mg ed, which got rid of it for the most part. Dbol FTW!
 
KingBF said:
So your saying that everybody is different...cool beans, but As I stated from my experience I get the best results preworkout and later in the day.
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Its called a placebo effect, taking tbol pre workout and feeling it is all in your head, its got a very long half life, it would make sense if it was dbol but not tbol.
Not here to argue just sharing some thoughts.
 
Yurek said:
hehe thanks alot for the advice guys, can i also do prop as kickstart? u got me confused here...
its for a bulking cycle so id rather go dbol, only thing is.. hair loss thats making me doubt about it.. thinking of 1-4wk 50mg dbol
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with dbol u will notice loss of weight at end of taking it however the strength gains u make should stay. your test e will b kicking in and you should b good. I have also kick started with test suspension twice a day for first four weeks. I loved dianabol though.
 
Inhuman2012 said:
with dbol u will notice loss of weight at end of taking it however the strength gains u make should stay. your test e will b kicking in and you should b good. I have also kick started with test suspension twice a day for first four weeks. I loved dianabol though.
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Damn brother walking around with a needle in your ass kickstarting with test suspension lol
 
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