what's better than deca?
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Bullseye Forever
Prince of Darkness
what about NPP?
Greazy-Pickle
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nothing beats deca when it comes to bulking in my opinion..
joei rock
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if he is only planning on a 10 week cycle NPP is the answer!! deca for 10 weeks would be a waste of gear IMO...
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njmuscleguy
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NO disrespect to anyone... but deca IMO is not the holy grail of bulking.... wasn't for me, anyway... I tried it a number of times and got nothing but bloat and awful sides...
I don't personally think deca for 10 weeks is a waste.... 8-12 weeks, whatever floats your boat... go by personal experience.
NPP was the complete opposite for me... I got nice, lean gains of which most I kept.
And to be honest, I actually got decent gains with tren... tren doesn't HAVE to be a "cutter AAS"... diet dictates that
I don't personally think deca for 10 weeks is a waste.... 8-12 weeks, whatever floats your boat... go by personal experience.
NPP was the complete opposite for me... I got nice, lean gains of which most I kept.
And to be honest, I actually got decent gains with tren... tren doesn't HAVE to be a "cutter AAS"... diet dictates that
Why, what do you feel is the minimum length to run deca?
MeatHead96
Jacked and Tan
12 weeks minimum. I would go 14 weeks, thats what i'm doing on my next cycle. And test should be run about two weeks longer than the deca. Deca takes a long time to build up in the system and leave the system. NPP is essentialy a short acting deca. It will build up in your system much faster and you would benefit much more from it in a 10 week cycle.
MeatHead96
Jacked and Tan
What kind of sides did you experience with deca?
njmuscleguy
New member
Bloat, "deca dick", and recovery was awful
Yes
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I agree with MuscleGuy as far as Deca bloat goes. I can't seem to beat it on even the most strict diet. I wouldn't buy a single vial of deca unless I plan to run it 16-18 weeks and would stack it with Masteron to keep Deca Dick in check and help with water retention.
My next 2 cycles if all goes well are going to be test Prop, NPP, Mast E... This is my first go round with NPP but I expect it will do me much better than deca for lean gains.
My next 2 cycles if all goes well are going to be test Prop, NPP, Mast E... This is my first go round with NPP but I expect it will do me much better than deca for lean gains.
njmuscleguy
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Yes
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Well if I don't look like you after, you're in fucking trouble ! hehe
What dosage did you use for the NPP ?
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njmuscleguy
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Yes
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Yea, That's what I had figured for UG gear at 125mg eod.. I like to tip the vial a bit with UG to be sure that I'm getting a proper dose..
cheers !
Dark_Side
over into the darkside
How much test were you running with it?
If your dink isn't working, your estrogen and progesterone is likely out of wack
cisco-kidd
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You could always run a little dbol the first few weeks. It would give you a nice kickstart to the cycle.
Logical
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i love deca, or at least NPP, i'll be running the deca ester later this year
my experience was minimal bloat (only 3-8 pounds of water by my estimation), that's at 400 a week with 500 a week of test. Admittedly i'm not prone to holding water under any circumstances. Had no problem with Deca Dick, but again, not a problem i'm prone too. No acne like i got from tren. Overall, i really didn't get any significant sides from it, if anything i was better off overall than with my first test only cycle. I did experience some gyno flareup, but that was my own stupidity for not having anything other than aromasin on hand
that aside, my gains were great. recovery was awesome since my joints and tendons always felt 100%, even after a couple really heavy days. Put on more muscle than with any other cycle, and more strength than anything but tren. Honestly nandrolone is hands down my favorite steroid
my experience was minimal bloat (only 3-8 pounds of water by my estimation), that's at 400 a week with 500 a week of test. Admittedly i'm not prone to holding water under any circumstances. Had no problem with Deca Dick, but again, not a problem i'm prone too. No acne like i got from tren. Overall, i really didn't get any significant sides from it, if anything i was better off overall than with my first test only cycle. I did experience some gyno flareup, but that was my own stupidity for not having anything other than aromasin on hand
that aside, my gains were great. recovery was awesome since my joints and tendons always felt 100%, even after a couple really heavy days. Put on more muscle than with any other cycle, and more strength than anything but tren. Honestly nandrolone is hands down my favorite steroid
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
IMO nothing is better than deca for pumps, and all out weight gain on the scale. Tren is great, and you can add size, its just size with no water.
The pumps from 600mg deca have brought me to my knees.
The pumps from 600mg deca have brought me to my knees.
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