What's the big deal? 19y/o just fine after juice

[GymLift]

For your first cycle is it really necessary depending on the steroid to take an anti-e during cycle, for any age? Being your first cycle and all wouldn't it be better after?

An aromatase inhibitor is not necessarily necessary.

 

[Chicken Legs]

You can't know if he will be just fine in the future. His hormonal system is still developing. There is a good chance that after the age of 35-40, he'll need to be on HRT for the rest of his life when he wouldn't have needed HRT until at least 60 otherwise. It's not that he would have done the cycle wrong, it is that if you do something like this to a developing system, you can seriously fuck it up in ways that will not be apparent until much, much later.

Why take the risk just for some gains? Especially when at that age, your test levels are raging anyway and gains are as easy to get as shoveling some food down your stomach. RETARDED if you ask me. I just don't get why someone who could easily get huge naturally and in a very short period would use steroids. There doesn't seem to be much point.

That's a good point brother, too bad there's no 35-40 year olds who did only one cycle like this at 20 to chime in, I would think the endocrine system would end up being fine just take a big hit for a while(then taking a little longer to get back to normal if you we're older) but then again I am no doctor. Another problem is addiction, now the kid has to try to stay away from it for 5 or 6 years, after seeing the great results you get from it. I think it's the multiple cycles that mess kids up the worse, not letting their systems get back to a stable point (which is already pretty unstable)

 

[Warmachine]

my first cycle was at 21. i was not prepared for the psychological effects of AS.

 

[Chicken Legs]

Alot aren't... how so? I suppose it was worse off cycle than on. How old are you now and have you done any more cycles since? Any side effects? If you could go back in time would you have done your cycle differently or not even done it at all? My 5,000 questions are done, just trying to get out some education.

 

[creepS]

Yea....how'd he pull that one off'

whats the big deal? u go to private clinic and you just dont give a rats ass what u tell `em,as long as you pay.

 

[creepS]

my first cycle was at 21. i was not prepared for the psychological effects of AS.

i went when i was 22,and same as you i wasnt prepared for that part. my ego was sky high,but when i hit post cycle therapy (pct) with clomid, sheesh i felt so down and depressed it was horrible.

 

[crushershockey]

i did my first cycle at 19 and everything was fine... went and got all my bloodwork done before and after... i'm 100%... i'm 20 now and i'm on my 3rd cycle... i'm 5'11" 220lbs... everything is still fine, i get my bloodwork done regularly and my doctor makes sure everything is ok... he's cool with the aas
i love canada!

 

[Chicken Legs]

3 cycles in a year... see that's something I would think is definitely going to lead you to infertility at the LEAST when you're older, with post cycle therapy (pct) or not. Crusher, go get your sperm checked man!

 

[crushershockey]

no my first cycle was a month long... did Winstrol (winny) caps only... then 3 months later i did Sustanon (sust) and dbol... and now i just took 5 months off and started prop and anadrol

sperm is goin good man, i get checked monthly for everything

 

[Incredible Mango]

Crusher,

I think you're very silly for doing all that stuff so young. 20 and 3 cycles in one year ... geez. You're not even old enough to have been fully grown up yet. It's crazy. But people can say all that stuff till they're blue in the face and you young 'uns will keep ignoring it. I hope you're happy cycling for the rest of your life.

Out of curiosity, did you get any of the side effects reported with prop such as flu, fever, etc.? If so, how long did it last and how severe was it?

 

[Drij]

went to the doctor the other day and asked for a test test said it would cost me $75.

 

[crushershockey]

sore throat that's it... not caused by the prop tho... i work late nights at the bar and don't get a lot of sleep due to college... i love prop it's fuckin awesome bro... hurts like a bitch when i inject in my arms and glutes but in the legs it's gold!

it was more then a year span... i started just before i turned 19 by like a month... and i'll be 21 pretty soon

only reason i did it was because i needed more size for hockey and rugby... i play very high levels in both.... not an excuse still but it helped me along...

 

[ManOfMuscle]

Do you feel like you lost speed with the size gain? Props to you for getting the proper medical work done btw.

 

[Incredible Mango]

Cool ... I play rugby too. What position are you? I play 6 or 8.

sore throat that's it... not caused by the prop tho... i work late nights at the bar and don't get a lot of sleep due to college... i love prop it's fuckin awesome bro... hurts like a bitch when i inject in my arms and glutes but in the legs it's gold!

it was more then a year span... i started just before i turned 19 by like a month... and i'll be 21 pretty soon

only reason i did it was because i needed more size for hockey and rugby... i play very high levels in both.... not an excuse still but it helped me along...

 

[crushershockey]

Do you feel like you lost speed with the size gain? Props to you for getting the proper medical work done btw.

naw i haven't lost any speed at all. i haven't done my plyo or speed training lately but when i get back into it i'll be quick as ever. and thanks.


and i play 12 and 13... inside/outside centre.. i'm pretty big but i'm a quick runner and i can break tackles easy... i love rugby <3

 

[DocJ]

whats the big deal? u go to private clinic and you just dont give a rats ass what u tell `em,as long as you pay.

Not in the U.S. you can't.

 

[Chicken Legs]

Im sure you can go tell the doctor you're just curious? Anyways back to the topic, puberty is the endocrine systems last stage.. so after puberty wouldn't it be no harm no foul?

 

[Behemoth]

Except for the fact that the endocrine system isn't finished developing until well into your 20s.

 

[marqui77]

i went when i was 22,and same as you i wasnt prepared for that part. my ego was sky high,but when i hit post cycle therapy (pct) with clomid, sheesh i felt so down and depressed it was horrible.

I think that the mental aspect is the biggest problem with younger users, most people when they are young are'nt mature enough to handle the emotional ups and downs, and sometimes just do some down right stupid shit. As far as the physical damage goes, there are cause and effects for everything you put in your body, you assume the risk of having future health problems, maybe you'll have them, maybe you wont...but, your choice should be a mature well informed choice.

 

[drk_diggler]

I think that the mental aspect is the biggest problem with younger users, most people when they are young are'nt mature enough to handle the emotional ups and downs, and sometimes just do some down right stupid shit. As far as the physical damage goes, there are cause and effects for everything you put in your body, you assume the risk of having future health problems, maybe you'll have them, maybe you wont...but, your choice should be a mature well informed choice.

good post....