Whats the deal with this Breatharian diet?

[Milton]

Hi there! Well I just met two of the dumbest girls form Canada on the face of this planet. They spent an hour trying to convince me that this new diet was the wonder one and cure all.

Breatharian? "breatharianism is the belief that it is possible for a person to live without consuming food. Breatharians claim that food, and in some cases water, are not necessary for survival, and that humans can be sustained solely by prana, the vital life force in Hinduism."

After they ranted and raved about it for over an hour, I told them flat out that they where idiots as I chomped on my Micky D's Big Mac.

Can anyone here give me some sound experienced advice? Who has been on this diet? or better yet, who has been on this diet and lived? lol
Perhaps I'll throw a breatharian lunch buffet for free! or better yet, bring your own! lol

 

[Mprtz]

Sorry but I'm allergic.

Should have steered the convo to tantric sex.

 

[halfwit]

It's just fasting. Sure, you can live...for about three weeks.

I remember reading somewhere about the "rule of threes"; you can survive 3 minutes without oxygen, 3 days without water, and 3 weeks without food. On my phone, so finding the reference is a PITA - but I'm sure Google can help for those so inclined.

 

[cybrsage]

I depends on how much value you put in the power of the spirit - of the life force we all have and that all living things have. As a general rule, no, it is not possible to live on prana alone. One would have to become enlightened first, and that could possibly take several lifetimes to do. And even then, the guru will still go through the motion of eating, drinking, etc., due to the shared reality everyone has created around them. More on that later.

The belief in non-dualism allows for such things as living without eating or drinking or even breathing, since you (as you currently know yourself) actually does not exist outside of Brahman. You are Brahman and Brahman is you...everything is Brahman. Dualism is the belief that there are two things in existence (when broken down to the lowest possible states), these are "Me" and "Not Me". The set of "Not Me" is obviously far larger than the set of "Me". In non-dualism, there is no "Me" and "Not Me", there is just Brahman - the energy of existence.

To dumb it down to the point of not really being correct, when enough energy pools together in one place, that energy becomes aware. It then tries to make sense of everything, so it creates "Not Me"s to surround itself with in order to logically conclude that there is a "Me". When this aware energy discovers another aware energy, they automatically join into a shared "Not Me" state. This is why we all see the same world, same universe, etc...but it is also why some people see it all differently, from slightly to greatly. Those who see it greatly different are labeled as mentally impaired by the rest.

When a person finally understands there is no "Me" and also no "Not Me", there is just Brahman, that person becomes enlightened. They are now a guru. The Guru will still eat and drink, though, because the body everyone else sees will die if he does not do so because of the shared reality. Our shared reality says it is not possible to live without food and water and therefor you cannot. If our shared reality said it was possible by those who trained hard enough and became spiritual masters, then the Gurus would not have to go through the motion of eating and drinking.


So in the end, it really depends on your view of things. In the non-dualism view, there is both nothing to eat AND no actor to perform the act of eating...it is all merely an illusion we use to make sense of a reality we do not understand. For those who care, I am talking specifically about Advaita Vendanta, a specific school of thought about the meaning of the Upanishads, Brahma Sutras, and the Bhagavad Gita.

 

[Milton]

I depends on how much value you put in the power of the spirit - of the life force we all have and that all living things have. As a general rule, no, it is not possible to live on prana alone. One would have to become enlightened first, and that could possibly take several lifetimes to do. And even then, the guru will still go through the motion of eating, drinking, etc., due to the shared reality everyone has created around them. More on that later.

The belief in non-dualism allows for such things as living without eating or drinking or even breathing, since you (as you currently know yourself) actually does not exist outside of Brahman. You are Brahman and Brahman is you...everything is Brahman. Dualism is the belief that there are two things in existence (when broken down to the lowest possible states), these are "Me" and "Not Me". The set of "Not Me" is obviously far larger than the set of "Me". In non-dualism, there is no "Me" and "Not Me", there is just Brahman - the energy of existence.

To dumb it down to the point of not really being correct, when enough energy pools together in one place, that energy becomes aware. It then tries to make sense of everything, so it creates "Not Me"s to surround itself with in order to logically conclude that there is a "Me". When this aware energy discovers another aware energy, they automatically join into a shared "Not Me" state. This is why we all see the same world, same universe, etc...but it is also why some people see it all differently, from slightly to greatly. Those who see it greatly different are labeled as mentally impaired by the rest.

When a person finally understands there is no "Me" and also no "Not Me", there is just Brahman, that person becomes enlightened. They are now a guru. The Guru will still eat and drink, though, because the body everyone else sees will die if he does not do so because of the shared reality. Our shared reality says it is not possible to live without food and water and therefor you cannot. If our shared reality said it was possible by those who trained hard enough and became spiritual masters, then the Gurus would not have to go through the motion of eating and drinking.

So in the end, it really depends on your view of things. In the non-dualism view, there is both nothing to eat AND no actor to perform the act of eating...it is all merely an illusion we use to make sense of a reality we do not understand. For those who care, I am talking specifically about Advaita Vendanta, a specific school of thought about the meaning of the Upanishads, Brahma Sutras, and the Bhagavad Gita.

Nice one! Thanks for this good read.

 

[3J]

cant take the crazy out of people guys

 

[3J]

I depends on how much value you put in the power of the spirit - of the life force we all have and that all living things have. As a general rule, no, it is not possible to live on prana alone. One would have to become enlightened first, and that could possibly take several lifetimes to do. And even then, the guru will still go through the motion of eating, drinking, etc., due to the shared reality everyone has created around them. More on that later.

The belief in non-dualism allows for such things as living without eating or drinking or even breathing, since you (as you currently know yourself) actually does not exist outside of Brahman. You are Brahman and Brahman is you...everything is Brahman. Dualism is the belief that there are two things in existence (when broken down to the lowest possible states), these are "Me" and "Not Me". The set of "Not Me" is obviously far larger than the set of "Me". In non-dualism, there is no "Me" and "Not Me", there is just Brahman - the energy of existence.

To dumb it down to the point of not really being correct, when enough energy pools together in one place, that energy becomes aware. It then tries to make sense of everything, so it creates "Not Me"s to surround itself with in order to logically conclude that there is a "Me". When this aware energy discovers another aware energy, they automatically join into a shared "Not Me" state. This is why we all see the same world, same universe, etc...but it is also why some people see it all differently, from slightly to greatly. Those who see it greatly different are labeled as mentally impaired by the rest.

When a person finally understands there is no "Me" and also no "Not Me", there is just Brahman, that person becomes enlightened. They are now a guru. The Guru will still eat and drink, though, because the body everyone else sees will die if he does not do so because of the shared reality. Our shared reality says it is not possible to live without food and water and therefor you cannot. If our shared reality said it was possible by those who trained hard enough and became spiritual masters, then the Gurus would not have to go through the motion of eating and drinking.


So in the end, it really depends on your view of things. In the non-dualism view, there is both nothing to eat AND no actor to perform the act of eating...it is all merely an illusion we use to make sense of a reality we do not understand. For those who care, I am talking specifically about Advaita Vendanta, a specific school of thought about the meaning of the Upanishads, Brahma Sutras, and the Bhagavad Gita.

this is close to descartes meditations...

didn't know you were such a philosopher sage

 

[cybrsage]

this is close to descartes meditations...

didn't know you were such a philosopher sage

I have studied many of the major world religions - at least to the point where I consider them to be foolish and discard them or I find them fascinating and delve ever deeper. I know a lot about Judaism and Messianic Judaism as well. I listed to the entire Mishneh Torah by the RAMBAM (there is a study on it found on Chabad.org). Judaism is a very brutal, but also beautiful religion / way of life. Messianic Judaism is essentially the way Christianity appeared during the first century AD. The original disciples and such would have gone to temple on Saturday to learn the Torah and then meet on Sunday to talk about The Christ (since most of the early Christians were Jews - non-Jews did not have to attend Temple). Christianity did not drastically change from that form until the Romans changed it.

I am currently delving deeper and deeper into Advaita Vendanta...I am on page 298 of 2300 of the works of Swami Dayananda. It has the ring of truth to it for me so far, but the jury is still out until I at least get 3/4 of the way through it. The esoteric is what I live for. "Feeling" and "seeing" the flow of energies between living things, and even the non-living in their own muted way. The interconnectedness of all existence. Call it Brahman, the echoes of the power used in Creation, the Force, Chi, or whatever, it all is the same thing. The religions simply differ in how they explain that energy and what its purpose is...they all agree it is there.


I like one of the old Asian creation stories. In the beginning there was nothing. Yet, there cannot be a nothing without an everything for it to be contrasted against. As such, everything suddenly came into being and it was sperated from the nothing. Nothing moved, everything was still. Everything was dark, yet without light there can be no darkness and so light came into being and it was separated from the darkness. Yet again, you cannot have stillness without motion to contrast it against, so motion began. You cannot have perfect nothing, perfect stillness, or perfect darkness, so a little light is in the darkness, etc.. Also, you cannot have perfect everthing, perfect motion, or perfect light, so a little dark is in the lightness, etc.

What you have is the Yin-Yang symbol. The teardrops represent motion. One side is dark, hard, still, the other is soft, light, moving. And you also see a part of one inside the other. The Yin-Yang symbol is the symbol of both creation and everything that has been created.


I found the parallel to Judaism profound:

1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.a 2The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.

3Then God said, ***8220;Let there be light,***8221; and there was light. 4And God saw that the light was good. Then he separated the light from the darkness. 5God called the light ***8220;day***8221; and the darkness ***8220;night.***8221;

Genesis 1 NLT