When do I start pct(what doses)
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LAWNSAVER
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start post cycle therapy (pct) 4 week after your last shot of Laurabolin. That is the longest lasting form of nandralone. I wouls be on 500ius of HCG every 5 days.
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Basic post cycle therapy (pct) doses and duration.
The first thing that needs attention is the testicle. HCG is needed to prevent testicular atrophy. 300-500ius every 4-5 days throughout a cycle will do the trick. IF you have waited until the end to fix the problem, take 500ius ED for the last 14-21 days of your cycle. After the testicles are taken care of we can work on restarting the HPTA. Here are a few ways in which you can address the problem.
SERMs have been documented in studies, personal experience, and real world feed back to aid in restarting the HPTA
NOTE: SERMs will not work on all, so I will try and give alternatives later in the thread.
Basic Clomid PCT:
Day 1: 300mg
Day 2 to 10: 100mg ED
Day 11 to 21: 50mg ED
Basic Nolvadex PCT:
Days 1 to 14: 40mg ED
Days 15 to 30: 20mg ED
I feel that a combo of the 2 are not needed. If the sides of Clomid are to much, use Nolvadex.
There are a few supplements I would use also to help with the lowered libido, increased SHBGs, and raised liver values
- MACA should help increase you libido
- Avena Sativa should lower SHBGs and increase free test.
- r-ALA will help repair any damage to the liver and help with glucose disposal.
There is also an alternative post cycle therapy (pct) that I personally dont recomend, but has worked for others.
Using the Herbal supplementations along with Proviron will help decrease the possible crash and increase libido. If you are one who recovers better than most, this way might be better. Although proviron can be suppressive, some can recover while using it. The HPTA will recover from time alone, so this post cycle therapy (pct) will take care of the crash symtoms and help get you though untill your HPTA recovers on it own.
NOTE: Using any of the above PCTs will not guarantee recovery. It is only a guide line to help. Everyone is different and you will need to find the best post cycle therapy (pct) to help you recover.
The only way to find out if you have truely recovered is blood work, so make sure you get the test done to find out whether the post cycle therapy (pct) you chose worked for you.
I hope this helps.
Also, please dont make this a debate...take what you want from the thread and find out what works for you!
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Basic post cycle therapy (pct) doses and duration.
The first thing that needs attention is the testicle. HCG is needed to prevent testicular atrophy. 300-500ius every 4-5 days throughout a cycle will do the trick. IF you have waited until the end to fix the problem, take 500ius ED for the last 14-21 days of your cycle. After the testicles are taken care of we can work on restarting the HPTA. Here are a few ways in which you can address the problem.
SERMs have been documented in studies, personal experience, and real world feed back to aid in restarting the HPTA
NOTE: SERMs will not work on all, so I will try and give alternatives later in the thread.
Basic Clomid PCT:
Day 1: 300mg
Day 2 to 10: 100mg ED
Day 11 to 21: 50mg ED
Basic Nolvadex PCT:
Days 1 to 14: 40mg ED
Days 15 to 30: 20mg ED
I feel that a combo of the 2 are not needed. If the sides of Clomid are to much, use Nolvadex.
There are a few supplements I would use also to help with the lowered libido, increased SHBGs, and raised liver values
- MACA should help increase you libido
- Avena Sativa should lower SHBGs and increase free test.
- r-ALA will help repair any damage to the liver and help with glucose disposal.
There is also an alternative post cycle therapy (pct) that I personally dont recomend, but has worked for others.
Using the Herbal supplementations along with Proviron will help decrease the possible crash and increase libido. If you are one who recovers better than most, this way might be better. Although proviron can be suppressive, some can recover while using it. The HPTA will recover from time alone, so this post cycle therapy (pct) will take care of the crash symtoms and help get you though untill your HPTA recovers on it own.
NOTE: Using any of the above PCTs will not guarantee recovery. It is only a guide line to help. Everyone is different and you will need to find the best post cycle therapy (pct) to help you recover.
The only way to find out if you have truely recovered is blood work, so make sure you get the test done to find out whether the post cycle therapy (pct) you chose worked for you.
I hope this helps.
Also, please dont make this a debate...take what you want from the thread and find out what works for you!
StoneColdNTO
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LAWNSAVER said:
I got to question the start time of PCT........I agree that Laurabolin is the longest lasting ester, which in theory would dictate starting post cycle therapy (pct) as you suggested.....BUT he is only doing 50mg E3D which only equates to 116 mg/week.
If the half-life is even 14-16 days, after 2 weeks he will only have ~ 50 mg left in circulation, hardly enough to keep him suppressed.
Therefore I'd start post cycle therapy (pct) 3 weeks after after the SuperTest 250 (if it is Sust blend) or 2 weeks if it's a straight enan or cyp ester.
tommy2tone
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3 weeks if sus is included, 2 weeks if it isn't
LAWNSAVER
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tommy2tone said:
Clomid and/or and SERM will not stimulate the neccessary parts if there is a synthetic steroid in the system.
Nadralone is horrible, and the ester used in laurabolin lasts the longest.
You could get away with starting at week 3, buy I would wait until at least 3.5.
I do understand how minute the concentration, but I had a bad experience with Deca, and I think it was because I started post cycle therapy (pct) to soon.
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