Where should I incorporate shoulders?

[keldon]

I've noticed my shoulders are lacking and I want to incorporate them into my current routine but am not sure where to add them, suggestions?

Here's my current routine: 5x5

Monday: Legs day
Squats
Calf raises
Various leg machines
End workout with 15 minutes on bike

Tuesday: Bi's/Tri's day
Seated Curls
Hammer curls
Overhead cable extension
Cable rope pull down
Preacher curls EZ bar
Db skull crushers

Wednesday: Chest day
Db flat press
Db flat fly
Db incline press
Db incline fly
Cable crossovers
Weighted dips

Thursday: Back day
Deadlifts
Pull ups
Lat pull downs + reverse handed
Db rows
Seated cable rows

Friday: work, or conditioning (cardio day)

Sat: work, walking quick, non-stop for about 10 hours

Sun: rest


Also, any critiques on my current routine are welcome.

 

[drewbolic]

shoulders in my routin have there own day usually after legs to end the split giving them the most time off considering we incorporate them as secondary muscles being worked in chest and back

 

[epoxy]

Do 'em on leg day. Won't effect your leg routine at all.

 

[Mudge]

At the moment my day 1 is chest, day 2 is shoulders/triceps. As long as it is well in advance of a chest workout you'll be fine, because it will affect that workout.

 

[b_saan]

Currently back to 4 day split with back/shoulders same day (after chest day, before arms day), I was on a 5 day for awhile with back one day then shoulders the next. Both work out fine for me.

BTW, it looks to me like you are doing WAY too many exercises/sets per body part, especially on Chest and Back day. Focus, rest and grow.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i agree b saan-too much-but i have told him that a few times already though

 

[keldon]

Currently back to 4 day split with back/shoulders same day (after chest day, before arms day), I was on a 5 day for awhile with back one day then shoulders the next. Both work out fine for me.

BTW, it looks to me like you are doing WAY too many exercises/sets per body part, especially on Chest and Back day. Focus, rest and grow.

Ya, I do it because my upper chest is really lacking. Am I over training? I was thinking about doing that routine change up, I can't remember what it's called, but you do 4 week on, w/ heavy over-training, then, 1 week light volume training. I guess it's supposed to even out fatigue and training, getting bigger gains once fully recovered. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

 

[Blondie_Bombshell]

I am doing shoulders with legs now because I only have time to lift like 4 days a week.