Which AAS effect HPTA least?

Proviron may or may not help with idiopathic oligospermia...

The primary cause of low sperm count in his case is HPTA dysfunction (low test & FSH).

BTW, it's not true that it takes 3 weeks for exogenous test to suppress your HPTA.


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Bioavailability and LH-suppressing effect of different testosterone preparations in normal and hypogonadal men.

Nieschlag E, Cuppers HJ, Wiegelmann W, Wickings EJ.

The therapeutic effectiveness of intramuscularly administered testosterone esters and free testosterone in suppositories was investigated by the measurement of plasma testosterone and LH levels after administration to normal and hypogonadal men. Testosterone levels were elevated above the lower physiological limit for 1 day after 25 mg testosterone one propionate, for 2 days after 50 mg testosterone propionate and for 14 days after 250 mg testosterone oenanthate. LH levels were suppressed for the corresponding periods. Elevated plasma testosterone and suppressed LH levels were maintained by testosterone suppositories (3 x 20 mg for 5 days).

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Comparison between testosterone enanthate-induced azoospermia and oligozoospermia in a male contraceptive study. II. Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of once weekly administration of testosterone enanthate.

Anderson RA, Wu FC.
....Thirty-three healthy adult men, aged 21-41 yr, were given 200 mg T enanthate (TE), im, weekly for up to 18 months...
...Plasma concentrations of both LH and FSH decreased rapidly after the first TE injection; a significant decline in LH was detectable after 24 h. Mean levels of both gonadotropins decreased to less than 0.5 U/L by the end of 4 weeks and to below the limit of sensitivity of the assays (0.05 IU/L) by 12 weeks...
 
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hhajdo: I quess that answers to question as to how long it takes for HPTA suppresion from Test. Any one who has any info on Primo and HPTA please post.
 
there is a drug out there that supports spermatogenisis. crap i wish i knew what thread it was on. Its like an FSH mimmicker, or maybe it is FSH... i dont know much info on it, but i remember a thread on EF about it
 
Nutri-Wrestler said:
there is a drug out there that supports spermatogenisis. crap i wish i knew what thread it was on. Its like an FSH mimmicker, or maybe it is FSH... i dont know much info on it, but i remember a thread on EF about it

Yes, it's FSH (human menopausal gonadotropin - hMG)..
BUT, his main goal is HPTA recovery...
 
Grey Wtr said:
I recently came off a rather lengthy cycle, which included both Fina & Deca. Needless to say I was quite shutdown when I came clean. I've have since done 2 courses of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and am using Arimidex & Clomid. In the future I will definitely stay away from Fina & Deca, yes they are great, but to hard on the Nat T, and Sperm count, for me.

Does anyone know a good site or a link which breaksdown the various AAS, as to how they effect HPTA?
What fucked you up is prolactin bro. Both those drugs increase prolatin which is the hidden hormone. Armidex and clomid wont do shit unless you supress Prolactin. Prolactin will stop Testerone not estrogen so unless you do something to block prolactin you will be fucked. I got fucked up from my first cycle of fina. Fina dick and lazyness. I was depressed that after 3 weeks I coundnt handle it and just jumped right back to a test cycle. I did my research and find out about Bromocriptine. After 4 month of a fina/dbol/test cycle I succesfull recovered fully in 1 month. With no limp bizkit. I posted an article in the steroid article section. Read it.
 
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Trenimator76 said:
What fucked you up is prolactin bro. Both those drugs increase prolatin which is the hidden hormone. Armidex and clomid wont do shit unless you supress Prolactin. Prolactin will stop Testerone not estrogen so unless you do something to block prolactin you will be fucked. I got fucked up from my first cycle of fina. Fina dick and lazyness. I was depressed that after 3 weeks I coundnt handle it and just jumped right back to a test cycle. I did my research and find out about Bromocriptine. After 4 month of a fina/dbol/test cycle I succesfull recovered fully in 1 month. With no limp bizkit. I posted an article in the steroid article section. Read it.

Deca & Tren don't increase prolactin.
The sides you get when you use them are probably caused by their progestagenic activity...

Even if his PRL is increased, that couldn't be caused by tren since he's been off for several weeks...
 
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Trenimator76:

Actually Prolactin was one of the values which was not out of whack for me on the blood tests. I will read your article though.
 
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