WHO here has taken Avena Sativa for SHBG reduction

[Drveejay11]

How many mg's?
Thoughts?

 

[Mr. Nobody]

Mine was 5-6g ed of a product from BAC. Sorry, to say, I never felt the Nelson Montana predicted raging morning hard ons. And that powder stained everything and tasted like soap.....nasty shit

 

[dude2003]

Mine was 5-6g ed of a product from BAC. Sorry, to say, I never felt the Nelson Montana predicted raging morning hard ons. And that powder stained everything and tasted like soap.....nasty shit

Same story here. Never felt shit, and taste even worse.

 

[Drveejay11]

Mine was 5-6g ed of a product from BAC. Sorry, to say, I never felt the Nelson Montana predicted raging morning hard ons. And that powder stained everything and tasted like soap.....nasty shit

5-6 GRAMS and you felt nothing?

That blows!

ANYONE get any positives from Avena?

 

[MotownMuscle]

I was wondering the same thing, Iam going to try Proviron. I heard that works good, any experiences
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[bleachcola]

Nelson claims to hear alot of positive feedback on herbal post cycle therapy (pct), but I've yet to hear from one satisfied customer who wasn't already taking nolvadex/clomid.

 

[lartinos]

taking avena with current cycle to help try to get the most out of my test. I really doubt it is doing anything. All it is is oat extract

 

[Makaveli_786]

Damn thats bad news, I was hoping to use those herbs one day

 

[frotobaggins]

bump?

 

[Drveejay11]

^

 

[JACKDAROIDER]

If I'm not mistaken, I read somewhere, (I believe the National Institute on Health), AKA - NIH, had a study on it. I believe that it stated the herb only seemed to show promise in people over 50. It's green oats I think. Something about globulin and age. It's been so long, I can't remember Dr. Vee....but I don't think you'll get anything out of it unless your older if my memory is correct.
Go to www.nih.gov, I believe thats where I read about it. One way or another, if you have'nt been on that site before, it clears up a lot of bull shit I hear from the many "experts" on a lot of supplements. You just have to read through the governments attempts to scare you, but the research conducted on a lot of supplements is excellent. Hope this helps.
Jack

 

[muscle_geek]

What are your thoughts on using bromo for increased libido?

 

[stonecold54]

5-6 GRAMS and you felt nothing?

That blows!

ANYONE get any positives from Avena?

I love the stuff. I can really tell the difference when I take it. I had stopped for awhile and then when I started back up and even though I was on cycle I felt much more energetic than when don't take it. Obviously you would have to blood tests to be sure but I feel much stronger and more energetic when I take A. sativa.

 

[FEEDDMACHINE]

I took it with most of the other shit in those things Nelson hypes and guess what, it did nothing for me also. It is all garbage if you ask me.

I also took both products "unleashed & post cycle" from Protein Factory and dident do nothing for me. I never got the morning hard ons either. I personally would not waste my money on those products again.

the only thing that worked for me as far as getting hard on was CIALIS.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Something's fishy here.

At first I thought, oksay, a few guys didn't get great results. Hell, that happenes even with steroids. And I also realized, there's no way of knowing if someone dosed proberly, or was using something else counterproductive or maybe was using inferior avena. Or it could even be when people say they don't "feel" anything, they don't know what they're supposed to be feeling. But still, it's too one sided.

The response has been overwhelmingly favorable, even with BAC avena. (Go to Elite and see for yourself all the people who posted positive results). The Protein Factory is a far superior formula and the return purchase rate is over 90%. Sooo...either these are some strange exceptions or it's one of those cases where people just want to be negitive, or it's the same guy with different handles (a competitor?). Who knows? But Unleashed is remendously poplar and as far as Post-Cycle, I have a question for Feedmachine. Did it not do what it said? You got gyno? You got a blood test and your liver values weren't lower? You couldn't get an erection? I find that hard to believe.

 

[FEEDDMACHINE]

Something's fishy here.

At first I thought, oksay, a few guys didn't get great results. Hell, that happenes even with steroids. And I also realized, there's no way of knowing if someone dosed proberly, or was using something else counterproductive or maybe was using inferior avena. Or it could even be when people say they don't "feel" anything, they don't know what they're supposed to be feeling. But still, it's too one sided.

The response has been overwhelmingly favorable, even with BAC avena. (Go to Elite and see for yourself all the people who posted positive results). The Protein Factory is a far superior formula and the return purchase rate is over 90%. Sooo...either these are some strange exceptions or it's one of those cases where people just want to be negitive, or it's the same guy with different handles (a competitor?). Who knows? But Unleashed is remendously poplar and as far as Post-Cycle, I have a question for Feedmachine. Did it not do what it said? You got gyno? You got a blood test and your liver values weren't lower? You couldn't get an erection? I find that hard to believe.

yes I did have blood work done and my liver values did not change at all. Also, I my estrogen was still high & I didnt really notice the morning erections you talk about.

I read all the good things you wrote in here about the two products so I decided to personally purchase them. I also followed your guidelines on how to take them daily. so, now that iam done with both products I can honestly say it didnet do shit for me.

Again, Iam not trying to be negative - everyone is different so for all you people here go spend the $$ and find out for yourself.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson I will make you a deal. I have used the majority of the ingredients that are in the two things you hype and I bought them from BAC. Anyways I bought them all several times and they did absolutely nothing. I even had my blood tested while on avena and off and there was no difference at all. SO with that in mind I am still willing to try your 2 products even though I am 99% sure there is no difference. If you supply me with both products( I just finished a cycle of 500 mg test/wk) than I will document my resutls on here and tell the truth of my reslults. If you are that confident in your products than I am sure you will oblige in order to clear this all up over here.

You took all the ingredients in Unleashed and Post Cycle and it didn't do anything? Well, if it doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you. Why would you want more? Anyway, there's another thread on this very subject where people are saying it worked well for them.

Feedmachine: So you had elevated liver values post cycle, took the supps, had another test and there was no improvement? Well, my involement aside, that goes against everything that everyone here believes about milk thistle, liv 52 and r-ala.

Also, did anyone use it as a "pre-sex" stimulant? Some of the ingredients increase nitric oxide in the same way viagra or cialis does and the difference is VERY noticable. So, again, it seems strange that it wouldn't work for some people. But nothing is 100% Even viagra doesn't work for some. (Which has got to suck)