Why prop

[liftingallday]

Just wondering why some bros like Prop? I mean wouldn't a longer ester like cyp or E be easier? I mean you only inject them twice a week and prop you are constantly injecting.

It is also more expensive if you are injecting that much, right?

Are there advantages of this I am unaware of?

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

Less water and fat retention, on other words staying more lean

 

[Spongy]

shorter esters allow for less conversion to estrogen so some people prefer that because they feel there is less chance of needing an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Also, there is more testosterone is 100mg of Prop than there is in 100mg of Cyp or Enan. Prop has 3 carbons. Cyp has 8 and Enan has 7. So of that 100mg of Test prop, 84% is actual Testosterone compared to 72% for Enan. It's all a personal choice. I use Cyp and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and haven't really had too much of a water retention issue.

 

[Spongy]

Less water and fat retention, on other words staying more lean

Explain the fat retention part, i've never heard that before.

 

[darkside06]

shorter esters allow for less conversion to estrogen so some people prefer that because they feel there is less chance of needing an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Also, there is more testosterone is 100mg of Prop than there is in 100mg of Cyp or Enan. Prop has 3 carbons. Cyp has 8 and Enan has 7. So of that 100mg of Test prop, 84% is actual Testosterone compared to 72% for Enan. It's all a personal choice. I use Cyp and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and haven't really had too much of a water retention issue.

^^ This.

With Prop you are much less likely to hold water so you don't get a lot of bloat so people run Prop a lot while cutting or trying to lean bulk.

Also it kinda depends on what your stacking with it. If you plan to run tren ace then you're better off running prop instead of a long esther because a.....you're going to be pinning more anyways and B......you'll feel the effects much sooner than a longer esther like cyp or E.

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

Explain the fat retention part, i've never heard that before.

Extra Estrogen causes fat retention and water retention. Estrogen make man body more fatty and round. Thats why a normal woman body always have more fat than a normal man. Thats why when you have higher Estrogen you have lower chest fat ect...
So if you want to cut , its more beneficial to use Test Prop

 

[UserAt204]

It's the same as cyp or E. I agree that long esters are much more convenient.

I don't agree that an ester will help you remain lean, or anything else. Yes you technically receive more hormone by weight but it's not an amount the user will notice.

Ester determines number of injects and that's about all. Prop will peak and decline faster than a long ester, so it technically should put you at more risk for rapid estro conversion. Long esters in time do dueled to higher serum levels, and over time can build higher estro levels so in time it's possible you may see some extra bloating.

Personally, I dont notice a difference between esters, except for TNE/Suspension. Some guys say they do and it will be different for everyone but an ester still does not change the hormone so they all will do the same.

 

[Phatbastard]

It's the same as cyp or E. I agree that long esters are much more convenient.

I don't agree that an ester will help you remain lean, or anything else. Yes you technically receive more hormone by weight but it's not an amount the user will notice.

Ester determines number of injects and that's about all. Prop will peak and decline faster than a long ester, so it technically should put you at more risk for rapid estro conversion. Long esters in time do dueled to higher serum levels, and over time can build higher estro levels so in time it's possible you may see some extra bloating.

Personally, I dont notice a difference between esters, except for TNE/Suspension. Some guys say they do and it will be different for everyone but an ester still does not change the hormone so they all will do the same.

More great info as usual!

 

[Spongy]

Well, I just learned something. Much appreciated User!

 

[Phatbastard]

Well, I just learned something. Much appreciated User!

User can teach us all on a daily basis u can take that to the bank.

 

[TroyDiesel25]

Test Prop cut with grapeseed oil = heavenly bliss

 

[Dr.Phoenix]

It's the same as cyp or E. I agree that long esters are much more convenient.

I don't agree that an ester will help you remain lean, or anything else. Yes you technically receive more hormone by weight but it's not an amount the user will notice.

Ester determines number of injects and that's about all. Prop will peak and decline faster than a long ester, so it technically should put you at more risk for rapid estro conversion. Long esters in time do dueled to higher serum levels, and over time can build higher estro levels so in time it's possible you may see some extra bloating.

Personally, I dont notice a difference between esters, except for TNE/Suspension. Some guys say they do and it will be different for everyone but an ester still does not change the hormone so they all will do the same.

Then why some people get swollen like baloon when they use long ester Test ?. If esters dont change anything , why they hold that amount of water , have a face like full moon?. In every book that i read , they say to stay away from Test Long Esters if you have problems of cutting up and estrogen sensitiveness. For me 60-65 mg of Test Prop or Acetate daily is much better then 500-600 mg Test Enanthate or Cypio.
On the other hand , if you want to simply get big , stick with Long ester Test , until you have desired amount of size.
It can be depending on people metabolism that how much you will Aromatize but a sensitive user can easily end up with Gyno in the end of cycle with long ester test. I have seen that before with 1 of Students. We need to stop the cycle in 4. week because he already started to have half way Gyno.

 

[Massive123]

prop > enanthate any day of the week. everything said above is spot on. beside which, lots of dudes, myself included, like the pinning part, even that gets addictive