Why shouldn't a 19 year old/young people use AAS?

TaxEvader

Complete ASSHAT & BANNED
Stumbling across threads with people saying, "you're too young" with absolutely no explanation. Yes, you natural testesterone production is very high at around 19 but it still doesn't compare to that of a person on steroids who literally blows up. There's no "blowing up" on natural testesterone. Assuming you've researched, have an impeccable diet, supplement properly and have been lifting for 3+ years why can't you hop on the anabolics? I think it's ignorant when it is coming from 23 year olds, do you really think you're that much different?


I think it's pure ignorance. This is coming from an 18 year old. Doesn't matter whether you're 21 or 41 anabaolics pose risks, period.
 
What appears below was developed by a number of our good friends at www.anabolicfitness.com

Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use.


Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:


1. PHYSICAL MATURITY. Anabolics can, through either direct or indirect effects, cause premature closure of the epiphyseal plates (growth plates) at the end of bone, an irreversible effect that may result in permanently shorter stature than the athlete would otherwise achieve. Therefore, the athlete should have reached full physical stature and maturity of the skeleton before contemplating anabolic use. In most cases, full stature is not reached until the very late teens and, in many cases, development of both long skeletal bones and joint assemblies (hips and shoulders) continues into the early 20's, development of the larynx (voicebox) into the mid-20***8217;s.


2. SIGNIFICANT MATURE MUSCULARITY. Anabolics have poor effect, or transitory effect, on athletes in mediocre condition; in addition, their tendency to boost muscle strength ahead of the strength of supporting tendons and ligaments can lead to debilitating injury in athletes without substantial prior training. Therefore, the athlete should have accumulated a significant amount of mature muscle mass and tendon strength through a dedicated program of resistance training prior to beginning anabolic use. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in training efficiency and effects, a minimum of 3 years, perhaps as many as 7, of dedicated weight training is required to achieve this necessary physical foundation, on which anabolics can be used safely and to best effect.


3. THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE. Anabolics are not a substitute for proper technique or applied knowledge of the basics of exercise physiology. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have a very thorough and detailed knowledge of lifting technique, dietary practice, recuperative processes, and hormonal and nonhormonal supplementation, and should if possible prepare for the use of anabolics under the guidance of a trusted mentor who has mastered these issues. In particular, the athlete should have an excellent understanding of the uses, effects, and risk profiles of anabolics, and should be thoroughly conversant with the kinds of ancillary agents that minimize side-effects and speed post-cycle recovery. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in the pace at which this knowledge is acquired, at least a year of arduous study and reading is necessary to understand anabolics and post-cycle recovery, and at least 4 years of practice is required to establish the requisite knowledge base of lifting technique, recuperation, and diet.


4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY. Anabolic steroids can have marked effect on mood and disposition, either during the cycle of active use, or its aftermath. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have the psychological health and maturity that will enable him or her to use anabolics with minimal social, psychological, and legal risk to both him/herself and his/her network of partners and collaborators. In addition, the athlete should be firm enough in purpose and balanced enough in approach to understand not only how and when to initiate use of anabolics, but how and when to curtail or abandon use safely should that need arise.


The use of anabolic steroids is unwise for persons who have not satisfied these prerequisites, though exceptions may be made in cases of very unusual athletic promise. While not a function of mere calendar age per se, it is unarguable that, on average, the likelihood that these conditions will have been met increases as the age of the prospective anabolic user increases.


For the reasons adduced above, the following statement of consensus opinion is made:

Allowing for substantial individual variability, and with the exception of cases of truly outstanding athletic promise, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should be socially and physically mature, psychologically healthy, and should have completed 4 to 7 years of dedicated, mentored training in strength/endurance athletics and study in lifting technique, dietary practices, recuperation skills and supplementation. In most cases, the athlete will have reached the age of 21 before these prerequisites are in place, recognizing that many athletes will not have achieved the necessary experience, physical maturity, and psychic balance until their mid-20's or even later.
 
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All of this is rudimentary knowledge that I, and plenty of other intellectual people, have known for years. In regards to "growth plates", there is no set age to when they close. I know 18 year olds that took an x-ray and concluded that their growth plates have closed. AAS wouldn't effect their physical maturity. Here's the fact, and I am going to break this tid-bit of information as nicely as possible. There are 18/19/20 year olds in this world who are better suited and more knowledgeable about steroids than a lot of mid-20 posters on this forum board, and the fact that they aren't given recommendations and advice while being much better suited and instead just told "nope too young wow you're stupid way too young you have 1000000mg of natural test!" makes no sense to me.







Too long, didn't read: You can't generalize every young man. The evidence based around the effects of AAS with young men vs older men is too inconsistent.
 
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Too long, didn't read: You can't generalize every young man.

You're a fuckin' idiot. You asked for a expanation, got one, and are too fucking lazy (or are incapable) to read and or comprehend.

Sorry but I don't have time for you as you are a complete waste of skin.
 
All of this is rudimentary knowledge that I, and plenty of other intellectual people, have known for years. In regards to "growth plates", there is no set age to when they close. I know 18 year olds that took an x-ray and concluded that their growth plates have closed. AAS wouldn't effect their physical maturity. Here's the fact, and I am going to break this tid-bit of information as nicely as possible. There are 18/19/20 year olds in this world who are better suited and more knowledgeable about steroids than a lot of mid-20 posters on this forum board, and the fact that they aren't given recommendations and advice while being much better suited and instead just told "nope too young wow you're stupid way too young you have 1000000mg of natural test!" makes no sense to me.







Too long, didn't read: You can't generalize every young man. The evidence based around the effects of AAS with young men vs older men is too inconsistent.

Well you should have read it because it does explain a lot, i am 27 years old now, I started training at 20, and have considered AAS all throughout my adulthood, it is only now, 7 years later that I decided to do it; cause here is the thing about 18-20 year old males, most are dumb as shit and near sighted, I remember being dumb as shit, and I remember believing many things about AAS that are simply not true. The truth is I didn't have the psychological (nor physical, in my case) maturity to use it, I could have gone on it right away and I probably would have had great results, but I would have probably stayed on it forever/abused it cause I would have loved the feeling on and hated the feeling off, most guys I know that started at 18-20 are on it constantly, they do not take breaks inbetween and believe that doing oral only cycles is A-OK, one kid told me his PCT was WINSTROL. The thing at that age also is that you are very unsure of your future, kids, wife, work etc... and prolonged exposure can have negative side-effects.

Yes some do have excellent knowledge of AAS and yes exceptions can be made, on this forum it's particular, most 18-20 year old are either underweight and could grow a lot more with food and have nice mature muscles and then go on, or just kids that want to do oral only cycles because they are afraid of injecting. If I see a 19 year old that is close to 200lbs and wants to go on and actually presents me a nice cycle with some research, more power to him I will definitly encourage it, I have yet to see it tho. The best I've seen here was a 19/yo 260 lbs kid, that took close to 2g of test a week and again never took breaks in between, he had knowledge, but he lacks perspective of things to come or that may happen if you take 2g of test a week at 19 what is there to expect at 30 or 40?

I didn't like the way you mocked StoneCold's post as it had no business being mocked because it actually made a lot of sense. There is no concrete SCIENTIFIC proof, but psychological scars can be often deep and some people never bounce back.
 
You're a fuckin' idiot. You asked for a expanation, got one, and are too fucking lazy (or are incapable) to read and or comprehend.

Sorry but I don't have time for you as you are a complete waste of skin.

Stone cold ...1 moron....0
 
You're a fuckin' idiot. You asked for a expanation, got one, and are too fucking lazy (or are incapable) to read and or comprehend.

Sorry but I don't have time for you as you are a complete waste of skin.

not my fight, but he didnt mean he didnt read yours.

he was putting that statement at the end of his paragraph for people who are too lazy or too add to read more than one sentence at once.

dont think he meant to insult you brah
 
this kid's a fucking idiot. if he knows everything i don't know what he is doing here. no one comes on these boards with an open mind thinking to themselves, "you know what, i don't know everything. i'm gonna listen to what these guys have to say". They come in here feeling they know it all and just want some type of reassurance. It's like your wife asking "should I wear the black dress or the red one?", the red one honey, "yeah i think i'm gonna wear the black one". The reason you shouldn't use AAS at the age of 19 is not only because your body IS NOT done maturing (i don't care who you are, there are no special cases. youa ren't done at 19), but you should have a few years of good training under your belt and should've gained a good amount of mass and strength naturally first. 90% of 19 year olds could not possibly do this. Oh you were a 6'2" 230 pound linebacker at 18? then why the fuck do you even want to do steroids. keep up the good work and reconsider at age 25. you a 6 foot 160 dork? then you're not ready!
 
Well I'm young but I know a lot about steroids after months and maybe more than older like you should never use deca (nandrolone) with nolvadex at the same time. But I can progress a lot before my natural limit so I will try it later but temptation is big.
 
Too long, didn't read: You can't generalize every young man. The evidence based around the effects of AAS with young men vs older men is too inconsistent.[/QUOTE]

You lazy ass worthless motherfucker if your too lazy too read the information that has been given to you. Your definately too lazy too take the time to have a proper diet/ training plan. People (like me) come here to learn more and more every day. When experienced AAS users are giving you good, well written advice... TAKE IT!
 
All of this is rudimentary knowledge that I, and plenty of other intellectual people, have known for years. In regards to "growth plates", there is no set age to when they close. I know 18 year olds that took an x-ray and concluded that their growth plates have closed. AAS wouldn't effect their physical maturity. Here's the fact, and I am going to break this tid-bit of information as nicely as possible. There are 18/19/20 year olds in this world who are better suited and more knowledgeable about steroids than a lot of mid-20 posters on this forum board, and the fact that they aren't given recommendations and advice while being much better suited and instead just told "nope too young wow you're stupid way too young you have 1000000mg of natural test!" makes no sense to me.







Too long, didn't read: You can't generalize every young man. The evidence based around the effects of AAS with young men vs older men is too inconsistent.

perfect example

4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY.
 
All of this is rudimentary knowledge that I, and plenty of other intellectual people, have known for years. In regards to "growth plates", there is no set age to when they close. I know 18 year olds that took an x-ray and concluded that their growth plates have closed. AAS wouldn't effect their physical maturity. Here's the fact, and I am going to break this tid-bit of information as nicely as possible. There are 18/19/20 year olds in this world who are better suited and more knowledgeable about steroids than a lot of mid-20 posters on this forum board, and the fact that they aren't given recommendations and advice while being much better suited and instead just told "nope too young wow you're stupid way too young you have 1000000mg of natural test!" makes no sense to me.

Too long, didn't read: You can't generalize every young man. The evidence based around the effects of AAS with young men vs older men is too inconsistent.

Only 18 and you've already got your own Wikipedia entry?

Douchebag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY.

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at that age the fact is the original poster's brain isn't even finished developing, frontal lobe ...

he still has a baby brain ... that explains his self centered, impulsive, immature way he replied to thread,

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Too long, didn't read: You can't generalize every young man. The evidence based around the effects of AAS with young men vs older men is too inconsistent.

You lazy ass worthless motherfucker if your too lazy too read the information that has been given to you. Your definately too lazy too take the time to have a proper diet/ training plan. People (like me) come here to learn more and more every day. When experienced AAS users are giving you good, well written advice... TAKE IT!

Lol? Are you joking? Calm down...

His too long didn't read comment was a summary of his post. That's it. It doesn't mean he didn't read stones post.
 
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Too long, didn't read: You can't generalize every young man. The evidence based around the effects of AAS with young men vs older men is too inconsistent.

"Too long, didn't read = TLDR" - its a summary of his OWN post. Like others are saying, it doesn't mean he didn't read StoneCold's post.
 
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