Will T3/Var benefit my mom?

[Matherme]

My mom is currently using 1.5iu of hgh daily, and she wants to improve her fat loss and energy levels so I thought I might reccommend her a var/t3 cycle.

Would you notice improved fat loss and energy from it?

Weeks 1-8 Anavar (var) 10mg/day
Weeks 1-8 t3

Now I have never run t3 before so what is a good dose for her, she is 51, and would Anavar (var) at 10mg be enough to increase her energy levels and muscle mass while using t3?

 

[3J]

whats her height, weight, and bf??

 

[Matherme]

height 5'5, weight 180, bf unsure. she is mainly trying to improve her fat loss and performance with hgh she is taking.

 

[Blondie_Bombshell]

I would need more info to comment on this. Such as training, desired results and diet. At 51 on 1.5 iu of gh she should be feeling good already.

But in short NO, neither drug will warrant fat loss without the correct diet and training (weights + cardio) routine.

 

[3J]

i would need more info to comment on this. Such as training, desired results and diet. At 51 on 1.5 iu of gh she should be feeling good already.

But in short no, neither drug will warrant fat loss without the correct diet and training (weights + cardio) routine.

bingo!!!

 

[Matherme]

diet is going well, and she only trains with me. diet is spot on, She has been on hgh for 2 months now, so it hasn't fully worked yet, she is on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) as well; but she has never experienced any noticable energy with her Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) treatment, so I thought Anavar (var) might be a nice run. Would it be wise with t3 to improve her fat loss, she'd like to be at 130-40 in the long run.

 

[Wonderwoman82]

what are you're mom's goals?? Is she into bodybuilding? any type of extreme fitness?? or just fat loss and staying healthy?
unless she's into some sort of competing I don't see why why she would want to play around with any gear.

 

[Matherme]

she is already on hrt, and tells me she never noticed improved energy to wellness from it and now she is on hgh for 2 months so far, so she is interested to improve her performance in the gym and benefit with the hgh combined for fatloss and positive well being. any opinions?

 

[edogger]

the truth of the matter is most women who are 40 and older can exercise till they are blue in the face and even with the cleanest of diets, will lose minimal weight if they are lucky. In fact there was just a long term study that was done that showed the average middle aged woman needs to exercise an hour a day every single day of the week at a moderate level JUST TO MAINTAIN HER WEIGHT and keep from getting fatter. Of course there are the genetically blessed who can manage to stay lean into old age but they are the exception, not the rule.

This is due to many factors, most of which are hormonally related.....and this includes low thyroid function. I see no reason to mess with Anavar (var) but pursuing the thyroid angle would probably be very productive.

What kind of Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is she on?

 

[dialtone]

diet is going well, and she only trains with me. diet is spot on

if her diet was spot on, you wouldn't be asking this question. I suggest learning how to really diet with out harmful agents. and as always, as I say every time I log on here, the weight loss effects of Anavar (var) are extremely mild if existent at all. please do not put your mother on t3/var...just send her to this forum.

 

[Wonderwoman82]

the truth of the matter is most women who are 40 and older can exercise till they are blue in the face and even with the cleanest of diets, will lose minimal weight if they are lucky. In fact there was just a long term study that was done that showed the average middle aged woman needs to exercise an hour a day every single day of the week at a moderate level JUST TO MAINTAIN HER WEIGHT and keep from getting fatter. Of course there are the genetically blessed who can manage to stay lean into old age but they are the exception, not the rule.

This is due to many factors, most of which are hormonally related.....and this includes low thyroid function. I see no reason to mess with Anavar (var) but pursuing the thyroid angle would probably be very productive.

What kind of Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is she on?

You are correct, when women get older (closer to menopause) they have difficultly maintain or losing weight in comparison to previous years of their life. It is hormonally related. However, it's mainly due to a lack in estrogen being produce, so her fat cell basically compensate for that.
I personally don't think that she needs Anavar (var) or anything to help control her weight. Plenty of woman have managed to get through menopause without becoming obese.
With a proper diet including a decent amount of estrogen based foods like soy and tofu, and of course daily exercise...she should be able to meet her goals of being healthy and controlling her weight.

 

[edogger]

You are correct, when women get older (closer to menopause) they have difficultly maintain or losing weight in comparison to previous years of their life. It is hormonally related. However, it's mainly due to a lack in estrogen being produce, so her fat cell basically compensate for that.
I personally don't think that she needs Anavar (var) or anything to help control her weight. Plenty of woman have managed to get through menopause without becoming obese.
With a proper diet including a decent amount of estrogen based foods like soy and tofu, and of course daily exercise...she should be able to meet her goals of being healthy and controlling her weight.

Im gonna have to disagree with you. Thats basically a cookie cutter mentality you and some of the others have and it doesnt apply across the board to all women.

My 33 year old wife who was always fairly lean had problems dropping the fat she put on during 2 pregnancies. Before kids her BF was around 15% and after it was 22%ish. Now that was far from being fat but she wanted her lean physique back. She could exercise 7 days a week for 2 hours a day and not lose a single pound, and her diet was flawless. It was very frustrating and she almost gave up but she decided it was ridiculous to just chalk it up to age and hormones.

Then we found out that its estimated that 25% of women who have given birth develop thryoid deficiency and that its hard to diagnose. So she started taking 25mcg a day of t3 and magically she was able to drop bodyfat like she should. Now she can eat like a normal person and only spends 5 hours a week in the gym instead of 15 and is able to have complete control over her body composition.

Of course i dont advocate jumping on drugs right off the bat and especially not AAS, but If you are eating well and exercising and not losing fat then theres a problem somewhere else, and t3 is about the safest place to start experimenting. Theres no reason a middle aged woman should have to spend all her free time in the gym each week and eat like shes on a contest prep diet just to drop a few lbs, just because shes female and thats how it goes. That mentality is simply ridiculous.


To the OP, i suspect that the GH and testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) should be plenty for your mother. Give it a few months before you start throwing her on a "stack"

lol

 

[3J]

Im gonna have to disagree with you. Thats basically a cookie cutter mentality you and some of the others have and it doesnt apply across the board to all women.

My 33 year old wife who was always fairly lean had problems dropping the fat she put on during 2 pregnancies. Before kids her BF was around 15% and after it was 22%ish. Now that was far from being fat but she wanted her lean physique back. She could exercise 7 days a week for 2 hours a day and not lose a single pound, and her diet was flawless. It was very frustrating and she almost gave up but she decided it was ridiculous to just chalk it up to age and hormones.

Then we found out that its estimated that 25% of women who have given birth develop thryoid deficiency and that its hard to diagnose. So she started taking 25mcg a day of t3 and magically she was able to drop bodyfat like she should. Now she can eat like a normal person and only spends 5 hours a week in the gym instead of 15 and is able to have complete control over her body composition.

Of course i dont advocate jumping on drugs right off the bat and especially not AAS, but If you are eating well and exercising and not losing fat then theres a problem somewhere else, and t3 is about the safest place to start experimenting. Theres no reason a middle aged woman should have to spend all her free time in the gym each week and eat like shes on a contest prep diet just to drop a few lbs, just because shes female and thats how it goes. That mentality is simply ridiculous.


To the OP, i suspect that the GH and testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) should be plenty for your mother. Give it a few months before you start throwing her on a "stack"

lol

i wont say this is bad advice.. what i will say is that someone at her age should be using the least harmful method first and go through a process of elimination that leads up to compounds...

 

[Wonderwoman82]

Im gonna have to disagree with you. Thats basically a cookie cutter mentality you and some of the others have and it doesnt apply across the board to all women.

My 33 year old wife who was always fairly lean had problems dropping the fat she put on during 2 pregnancies. Before kids her BF was around 15% and after it was 22%ish. Now that was far from being fat but she wanted her lean physique back. She could exercise 7 days a week for 2 hours a day and not lose a single pound, and her diet was flawless. It was very frustrating and she almost gave up but she decided it was ridiculous to just chalk it up to age and hormones.

Then we found out that its estimated that 25% of women who have given birth develop thryoid deficiency and that its hard to diagnose. So she started taking 25mcg a day of t3 and magically she was able to drop bodyfat like she should. Now she can eat like a normal person and only spends 5 hours a week in the gym instead of 15 and is able to have complete control over her body composition.

Of course i dont advocate jumping on drugs right off the bat and especially not AAS, but If you are eating well and exercising and not losing fat then theres a problem somewhere else, and t3 is about the safest place to start experimenting. Theres no reason a middle aged woman should have to spend all her free time in the gym each week and eat like shes on a contest prep diet just to drop a few lbs, just because shes female and thats how it goes. That mentality is simply ridiculous.


To the OP, i suspect that the GH and testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) should be plenty for your mother. Give it a few months before you start throwing her on a "stack"

lol

Ok, I do agree with what you're saying and it's true that her issue may not be the potential of hormone changes from menopause.
However, there are and ENORMOUS amount of causes that it could possible be. Perhaps she's been yo yo dieting most of her life and has battled with eating and her weight. she may have disrupted her hormonal balance from poor nutrition. If that's the case, then she needs to see an nutritionist/dietitian and have some assistance learning how to eat properly for her body and get her nutritional needs back on track.
Or perhaps it's from too much stress, high levels of cortisol could have caused disruption to her hormone levels as well.
Then there's always genetics, menopause and Postpartum like you had mentioned.

Bottom line is, if her problem is truly a hormonal imbalance that has affected her ability to control her weight, I don't believe it's up to someone that's not a doctor to diagnose and prescribe a drug.
It's just playing with fire for the main purpose of weight loss

 

[Miss Muscle]

To the OP...post her stats, diet and training. Telling us she eats well doesn't tell us anything.

There are people that think they have made a drastically fantastic health changing move by switching to the 25% less fat oreo cookies over oreos.

I would never recommend T3 to anyone just looking for "energy" or a bit of "fat loss". Only hardcore people that really know diet and training, and who are looking to get ultra lean should consider T3. Or of course people with certain medical conditions.