wondering what yall think

[Wrangler06]

Hey guys i'm new to the site and thinking about getting trt.
a little background:
I'm 23, 5'11, 185, never ussed aas but have tried different pro-hormones and natural test enhancing products; superdrol,tribulus, zma, multi, etc. Been lifting for 6 years on and off, always was really hard to put on weight.
was an avid drug user from 19 to 21 using a lot of opiates(which i think might have something to do with my situation), weed, and alcohol, ectasy.
So, i've been feeling like shit for the last couple years and thought it was just cause i stopped using drugs, but lately i've been studying up on low testosterone and it seems that i have all the symptoms;trouble sleeping, depression, low sex drive, low motivation, lack of energy, head fog.
so i got a physical and just for kicks asked for my total test count and it was 350. so i saw and endo and he agree's that i have the symptoms and my test is very low for my age, he sent me to get the rest of my blood work done and i will post those results for yall a soon as i get em. i see him again this coming monday and he already told me that i def need testosterone and wants to give me injections but is waiting till the blood work comes back to finalize my program. and i'd like to know if we can talk about price on here

just wondering what yall think about my situation, if i need testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), my doc. anything else yall would like to know i'd be happy to provide the info. thanks

 

[cyto33]

if you had of JUST SAID NO TO DRUGS you wouldn't be in this boat.

 

[Greybeard]

I bet you will be unsatisfied with your Endo....

 

[Wrangler06]

i don't think that the drug using was the main thing that lowered my test levels. i never used drugs til 18 and before that i was really into working out and eating healthy and had a very hard time gaining weight. during highschool the highest weight i got to was 160. and can drugs really even effect your test levels that much to put them into the low levels that mine are? I mean, 350 and i haven't used drugs for 2 years and i workout at least 3 times a week and eat well. imo i have a low t genetically, because my dad was always small until he started gaining fat especially in the midsection and my brother who is 18 now hasn't really changed much since puberty besides a little peach fuz mustache and that was the same with me

 

[cjw2021]

Go get some test. It will definitely help. Get some of Dr. Lin's products like dopafibra as well to fix your brain and detox your liver from the drugs.

 

[Wrangler06]

well i called my doc's office to see what the price was gonna be like and it was way too much just for the Testosterone and it didn't cover any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or anti estrogen drugs so...i'm gonna do a cycle and worry about this later.

 

[cjw2021]

lol you must have called an anti aging clinic. Cypionate is like 10-30$ without insurance for 250mg/1ml.

 

[Clicked]

lol you must have called an anti aging clinic. Cypionate is like 10-30$ without insurance for 250mg/1ml.

Just had my first covered by insurance, and it was $12.50

 

[Greybeard]

Damn... Be great if Tri-Care would pic up my tab!

 

[cjw2021]

Just had my first covered by insurance, and it was $12.50

6$ here

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

Unfortunately, you are probable screwed when it comes to getting the real type of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) that you need. You are 100% correct. The opiates crushed your "T" levels. Your estrogen is probably through the roof. CONGRATS TO YOU, THOUGH, FOR KICKING THE SHIT, SON! You can fix the rest! You will not be able to be helped by a TRT/HRT clinic like mine, because you are under 30. But you must make sure that your endo is not only giving you TEST, but also Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and and anti-estrogen. If he doesn't, then he has no idea what the hell he's doing and you need to find yourself another one. Good luck and stay clean!

 

[Wrangler06]

i ended up getting my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), 200mg cyp a week, and they reduced the cost for me it still might be high compared to 12 bucks but i can do 225 for a 10 week legit supply for now. first inject on thursday, can't wait.
o and my othe

 

[Wrangler06]

i ended up getting my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), 200mg cyp a week, and they reduced the cost for me it still might be high compared to 12 bucks but i can do 225 for a 10 week legit supply for now. first inject on thursday, can't wait.

o and my other test came back:

Total Test 253 ng/dl
free test 6.5 ng/dl
shbg 19 nmol/L
LH 5.7 miu/ml
prolactin 9.1 ng/ml
estradiol 10 pg/ml
free T3 2.7 pg/ml
free T4 1.11 ng/dl
tsh 1.3 uiu/ml
dhea sulfate 303 ug/dl

 

[Wrangler06]

i would really appreciate any comments that anybody has on the subject(anything at all). I know the script is high and i'm going to another endo to see if i can get it for cheaper; but i am interested to see what yall(Chip i would def like a comment sence i see you as a very knowledgeable person on this subject) think about my blood work. The little knowledge i have has led me to believe that i have secondary hypogonadism sence my lh is fine but my test is so low and my estrogen matches the low test.

I'm really interested in other guys my age having the same problem and what their doc's are doing for them; but i would totally appreciate any feedback from anyone on trt. thx guys in advance, just trying to up my knowledge on the subject.

 

[Wrangler06]

oh and chip for some reason i couln't pm you so i'll just post it here:

so i'm 23 and my test is extremely low; 253 total. 6.7 free. so i know i'm low and need test because of the common symptons(which i have); but i would like to stay in contack with you about my corrent dosage. wich is200mg/cyp a week, but my doc doesn't think i need Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or anti-e's and i'm getting really mixed reports because of what my doc says and what i'm reading on the ology. i would really appreaciate your feedback on my situation! and anything else you would need to help understand i am completely open to extend that info for u.(i'm just worried that my doc doesn't know all that there is to know about trt.)
So, basically i would just love some feedback from someone that imo knows their stuff and can help me not go through the bs that some docs say but don't truly know? thx in advance, from what i've read on the ology you know your stuff so i would be greatful for any info you have on my situation. thx

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

Bro, if your doc says that you dont need Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and anti-e, than he doesn't know shit about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and you need to find a new doc before this clown hurts you. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and anti-e are two of the most basic and remedial staples of HRT/TRT. Get a new doc, chief. This clown is a complete idiot. i'll be happy to help you with advice, even though I cant offer you therapy due to your age. Drop me an email.