Workout Nutrition - Are You Doing it Right?

an IMT client.

They have tons of before and afters just haven't had the time to sit down and put them together.
 
Guys, please take it easy. This conversation started over what to eat and when. It isn't like we are trying to resolve the Israeli Palestine Crisis.

We are very fortunate to have sponsors like IMT and members like MrRippedZilla here that graciously share their vast knowledge and experience with the rest of us. I am here to continue learning from these guys!
 
THE-DET-OAK said:
you want the truth? Well here it is.

There is no reason for a man with a deficiency to not go on TRT. You are implying that there are other choices that would be better for that person and this is not true.

Every day that a man suffers a testosterone deficiency he is at risk for a ********* disease. When your testosterone is deficient androgen receptors are not being activated. This tells your body to store fat and not just any kind of fat, Android fat. This is a particular type of fat that leaves your body 8x more prone diabetes and hypertension.

The risk of TRT is far less than the risk of carrying this type of fat. In fact many IMT clients have undergone TRT for a year or more and recovered natural testosterone levels far above what they were previously. Your assumption is that once a man undergoes TRT he is destined to be on it for life, this could not be further from the truth. It seems you have little understanding that hypogonadism is a medical condition.

I honestly don't know what your point is or what your trying to prove but there are 2 things your not gonna do.

#1 Imply IMT sells steroids

#2 Imply that IMT compromises their integrity to put people on TRT.
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It seems you aren't reading my posts. I already clarified what IMt sells.
Now, I can agree with stuff you say however you have also skewed some things. So, firstly why would i assume one has to be on trt for life when people have been running cycles for ages. Also I have come of trt twice and then discovered my sleep apnea that I should of treated originally. Everyone has there own definition of integrity. So, a rhetorical question for you. Do you recommend getting a sleep study when people call or tell them to get their diet in check. I have contacted you and you do not.
 
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Megatron28 said:
Guys, please take it easy. This conversation started over what to eat and when. It isn't like we are trying to resolve the Israeli Palestine Crisis.

We are very fortunate to have sponsors like IMT and members like MrRippedZilla here that graciously share their vast knowledge and experience with the rest of us. I am here to continue learning from these guys!
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I hope you are just as enthusiastic to learn from my posts as well.:xmas:
 
Therealkozmo said:
It seems you aren't reading my posts. I already clarified what IMt sells.
Now, I can agree with stuff you say however you have also skewed some things. So, firstly why would i assume one has to be on trt for life when people have been running cycles for ages. Also I have come of trt twice and then discovered my sleep apnea that I should of treated originally. Everyone has there own definition of integrity. So, a rhetorical question for you. Do you recommend getting a sleep study when people call or tell them to get their diet in check. I have contacted you and you do not.
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I just went over this, you are just not listening. When a man has a testosterone deficiency no diet will help them. IMT has always been an advocate of eating properly, we just do not have a dietician license so we are not suppose to be setting up diets for anyone. You can get in big trouble for this.

So you called IMT and they didn't recommend you get a sleep study? lol

Maybe they should make recommendations after you call them. Next time try turning in your required documents.

And in all honestly many of our clients have had sleep studies, it normally does not change the fact they are testosterone deficient.
 
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Megatron28 said:
Guys, please take it easy. This conversation started over what to eat and when. It isn't like we are trying to resolve the Israeli Palestine Crisis.

We are very fortunate to have sponsors like IMT and members like MrRippedZilla here that graciously share their vast knowledge and experience with the rest of us. I am here to continue learning from these guys!
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I would like your post but it won't let me. I am here to learn aswell and not saying I can't learn from them. Merely pointing out their motives
 
THE-DET-OAK said:
I just went over this, you are just not listening. When a man has a testosterone deficiency no diet will help them.

So you called IMT and they didn't recommend you get a sleep study? lol

Maybe they should make recommendations after you call them. Next time try turning in your required documents.

And in all honestly many of our clients have had sleep studies, it normally does not change the fact they are testosterone deficient.
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Why would I give you any documentation when save a couple hundred a month getting it from my doc?

There are plenty of members that think you are silly for acting like your business is not motivated to make money. Apparently, I am the only one who doesn't fear being banned. I prefer truth. Also, I am not saying you don't supply a valuable service. I am pointing out your motives. It's fine to make money. If I sold trt, I wouldn't suggest a sleep study either. That's why I am in a business that allows me to get payed to help people get healthy.
 
Don't act like you suggest a sleep study. You just get more and more obnoxious with your statements. Now, I am getting bored with this and it is apparent you are going to say whatever to preserve the "integrity" of your business. So I can see where my time is wasted
 
Therealkozmo said:
Don't act like you suggest a sleep study. You just get more and more obnoxious with your statements. Now, I am getting bored with this and it is apparent you are going to say whatever to preserve the "integrity" of your business. So I can see where my time is wasted
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My. My. Are you misbehaving again?? lol You really should stop stirring the pot. You're only going to get burned!!

So..., Come on. Be nice!! :)
 
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Therealkozmo said:
Don't act like you suggest a sleep study. You just get more and more obnoxious with your statements. Now, I am getting bored with this and it is apparent you are going to say whatever to preserve the "integrity" of your business. So I can see where my time is wasted
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sleep study doesn't normally help, sorry bro. A lot of our clients have been dealing with it for years. Not saying don't get one but if you think that is magically gonna correct your T levels, chances are your wrong.

Honestly I'm just not understanding what your getting at. IMT has many, many very happy clients, sorry your not one of them.

Not everyone can afford the best :)

You didn't even turn in a health history and lab work, you merely "called imt" so......
 
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