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WTF... Just 1kg after 5 months of massive dosages and food
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Fat mass stayed he same at 17.8kg in both pics.
OP, you gained some muscle mass while keeping your fat mass constant and dropping water weight. The numbers aren't extraordinary but they're not horrible either
Edit* considering you're on HGH and slin I'd expect to see more but what was your cycle like? Diet? Training?
I did and still saw the same as you at first hahaha
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more focus on diet and training...
Mrrippedzilla
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For you to have gained very little muscle mass & no fat suggests their was something very wrong with your diet.
A common misconception among our community is that if you use enough gear, your diet won't matter.
Most people worry about gaining fat on cycle so they limit their calories to ensure lean muscle gain. Unfortunately, this is a two sided sword - if you don't eat enough calories their simply isn't enough energy available to create muscle growth.
You end up being primed and ready to grow grow grow, but theirs not enough energy available to make it happen.
This definetly seems to be the case with your numbers, could you post your diet macros up?
A common misconception among our community is that if you use enough gear, your diet won't matter.
Most people worry about gaining fat on cycle so they limit their calories to ensure lean muscle gain. Unfortunately, this is a two sided sword - if you don't eat enough calories their simply isn't enough energy available to create muscle growth.
You end up being primed and ready to grow grow grow, but theirs not enough energy available to make it happen.
This definetly seems to be the case with your numbers, could you post your diet macros up?
Black Beard
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What was your training like as well? If you truly ate massive dosages of food, all that's left is the potency of your gear and the efficacy of your training. Tell us more about them. (Gear, Training)
It has to be a problem with your diet. If you eat enough of a caloric surplus, you'll gain weight no matter what. Eat 500 calories a day over maintenance for 5 months, and you'll be significantly heavier after 5 months. Gear and training will help determine how much of that extra weight is muscle.
There's a limit to how much lean mass you can put on without getting fat. You won't see anyone at 500 pounds with low body fat. You'll still gain weight with a surplus. If you're not gaining weight at all, it means you aren't eating enough.
There's a limit to how much lean mass you can put on without getting fat. You won't see anyone at 500 pounds with low body fat. You'll still gain weight with a surplus. If you're not gaining weight at all, it means you aren't eating enough.
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Mrrippedzilla
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Your diet is definetly looking good for muscle gain bro, but now you have me VERY interested in your cycle and training.
What was your cycle exactly during this period?
You mentioned HGH/Insulin/T3 and this is usually a cutting cycle not a bulking one. Its possible that combining this cycle with excessive training (high intensity cardio session, etc) you might actually avoided being in a caloric surplus despite your diet being on point.
Again I'm purely speculating here; post your training protocol and your exact cycle (with any changes made along the way)
What was your cycle exactly during this period?
You mentioned HGH/Insulin/T3 and this is usually a cutting cycle not a bulking one. Its possible that combining this cycle with excessive training (high intensity cardio session, etc) you might actually avoided being in a caloric surplus despite your diet being on point.
Again I'm purely speculating here; post your training protocol and your exact cycle (with any changes made along the way)
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No I'm just asking. I don't really do protein shakes myself. I eat about 2-3 pounds of chicken, 1/2-1 lb red meat, 9 egg whites with 3 whole eggs, cottage cheese and Greek yogurt with veggies, pasta, wheat bread, etc for carbs. I stay about the same eating that much. I'm not 290.
Mrrippedzilla
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Dude their is nothing wrong with your diet, more than enough of everything to grow.
Your training isn't the greatest - I personally would've lowered the reps & increased the weight to ensure progressive overload (leads to more muscle growth).
But that still doesn't explain your lack of muscle gain, it probably has something to do with your cycle/blood work but with that many compounds I won't even pretend to have the knowledge required to comment on it.
I'm not judging bro, but I'll let some vets chime in on this.
Your training isn't the greatest - I personally would've lowered the reps & increased the weight to ensure progressive overload (leads to more muscle growth).
But that still doesn't explain your lack of muscle gain, it probably has something to do with your cycle/blood work but with that many compounds I won't even pretend to have the knowledge required to comment on it.
I'm not judging bro, but I'll let some vets chime in on this.
The insulin alone should have done that or kore in 5minths I'd think. My money maybe on hunk gear. 5lbs of muscle in 5months sounds like natty progression to me
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You questioned the validity of your gear in your first post. Regardless of your genetic potential, you're running 4 compounds totaling over 4g/wk plus hgh plus enough slin to kill a baby whale. If you truly ate like you mentioned in your post and even trained half assed I'd think you'd see more than that.
Leiurus
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I would question each aspect fo your physical progress:
Training: as pointed out by Rippedzilla, you training is not ideal to promote growth, think about adjusting it toward low reps / heavy weights.
Diet: your diet is fine on paper (slightly below 6000cals) but your TDEE is quite high as well (slightly below 5000). Should you be a bit "generous" in your measurements and / or skip a shake here and there and you're down to maintenance level.
Gear: a pointed out be DreDray you might have bunk / underdosed gear. Over 4g gear/w IS a lot, whatever your size. I bet that some compounds are fine but that others are not to par. What GH do you use, generic or pharma grade? Keep in mind that the best generic GH will score around 1/3 of pharma grade. So even if you got the best generic GH on the market your 12IU / day are actually equal to 4IU of pharma stuff, etc...
Training: as pointed out by Rippedzilla, you training is not ideal to promote growth, think about adjusting it toward low reps / heavy weights.
Diet: your diet is fine on paper (slightly below 6000cals) but your TDEE is quite high as well (slightly below 5000). Should you be a bit "generous" in your measurements and / or skip a shake here and there and you're down to maintenance level.
Gear: a pointed out be DreDray you might have bunk / underdosed gear. Over 4g gear/w IS a lot, whatever your size. I bet that some compounds are fine but that others are not to par. What GH do you use, generic or pharma grade? Keep in mind that the best generic GH will score around 1/3 of pharma grade. So even if you got the best generic GH on the market your 12IU / day are actually equal to 4IU of pharma stuff, etc...
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