I just have a simple question if one were to do roids and not do a post cycle therapy (pct) how long will the estrogen last and what problems occur in the body i know there is a shit load. my question asking this is because when i was 19 maybe even 18 years old like a dumb young guy going to the gym with no experience. again know that is a terrible age to do them. i was given some from a friend they were pills cant remember what there because i am now 24 years old. but i have alot more knowledge on the facts of what roids can do and what to post cycle therapy (pct) with. I'm pretty sure i was taking winstrol or maybe even d boll who knows all I know was they were oral than at some point i did injections. not for long though maybe 2 shots. i stopped them didnt take any post cycle therapy (pct) cuz we dumb young again no research didnt even hear of post cycle therapy (pct) just thought roids were the magic a juicer told us what to do and we believed him. I'm the typical example of the thread basher you guys always pick on haha yeh I have read alot. anyways i got a injury had to have surgey right when i was off the roids . i broke my wrist had to get screw it in it. nothing to do with orals thank god. i drank on it and so was a idiot. anyways i had 9 months recovery no lifting weights and ofcourse i got fat and the water weight. i ballooned to 190 at 5'7 and not good.. fat hahha was all depressed because I couldnt work the career I intended to have and couldn't work out. so sat and ate since I still had the hunger and in turn got fat. later years i woke up one morning didnt like what i saw and started going to the gym studied it figured it all out. leaned to 147. hit a platue and was stuck there at 147. I could bench 200 pounds and more at 147 but wasn't gaining a pound. I studied more on nutrition and got the diet down. I was afraid if i at more I would get fat again. I'm now at 160 and pretty built. sorry for the story but guess i felt i had to introduce it all. but anyways I can never get my bottom abs to show and have the full 6 pack always the four even at 137 pounds just the four. So this got me wondering maybe I still have some estrogen or this is some built up fat I can never get rid of or I still need to drop some body fat % I been reading how if your triceps jiggle that can be a cause of estrogen build up. they do a little bit. I have had blood work and since than and over the years. I'm all good thank god. Classic live and learn haven't touched anything since. Anyways just wondering an pros opinion since I have never told anyone this and thx for reading my ramble!