1-ad andro first cycle of p.h

[nosCosThisThingOfOurs00]

hi i have a few questions or i wanted to see from everyone if this is a ok combo for a first prohormone cycle. a couple people already told me they dont really consider the supplement im going to take to be a prohormone but i figured this is the best category to post in.

SORRY ABOUT THE TITLE , I REALIZED I PURCHASED 4-ad not 1-ad

im 23 yrs old , 170 ibs, started training at 110 ibs

INFO:

4-ad utt (liquid form) by advanced muscle science
Revolution black post cycle therapy (pct) - i didnt buy aromx by advanced muscle science for post cycle therapy (pct) because i thought this would be a better choice
of course some essentials:
Toco-8 - didnt think i needed this but wanted to try it so i threw it in the mix
fish oil , multivitamin, milk thistle,hawthorne berry just for any precaution

diet:
high protein , low carb , 4000 cal +


im not someone who has ever used prohormones or steroids but i figured i try this. i heard some negative shit about 4-ad utt by a.m.s like since its in liquid form and not oral it passes the liver or it barely works... but my friend used it and says it was a good one for a novice user of p.h

id like to get your feedback, negative or positive i appreciate it ... thanks

 

[07Lane40]

IIRC its DHEA... technically a "pro hormone" but nothing good IMO.

 

[nosCosThisThingOfOurs00]

IIRC its DHEA... technically a "pro hormone" but nothing good IMO.

nothing special? or completely ineffective?

 

[07Lane40]

DHEA is good for some things. i like a certain DHEA product I've been using for a while, but if you're looking for something that will cause a dramatic body recomposition then DHEA is not it.

its a good support supp, yes, and you may see some benefits of using it.

also the oral vs transdermal bioavailability has been disputed.

for the money you pay for this crap, i'd buy something else for cheaper and get better results.

 

[07Lane40]

another reason i hate this shit is because its marketed as a powerful and illegal pro hormone. and its nothing more than DHEA that you can buy in your local health food store.

shit pisses me off.

 

[hardpr]

hi i have a few questions or i wanted to see from everyone if this is a ok combo for a first prohormone cycle. a couple people already told me they dont really consider the supplement im going to take to be a prohormone but i figured this is the best category to post in.

SORRY ABOUT THE TITLE , I REALIZED I PURCHASED 4-ad not 1-ad

im 23 yrs old , 170 ibs, started training at 110 ibs

INFO:

4-ad utt (liquid form) by advanced muscle science
Revolution black PCT - i didnt buy aromx by advanced muscle science for pct because i thought this would be a better choice
of course some essentials:
Toco-8 - didnt think i needed this but wanted to try it so i threw it in the mix
fish oil , multivitamin, milk thistle,hawthorne berry just for any precaution

diet:
high protein , low carb , 4000 cal +


im not someone who has ever used prohormones or steroids but i figured i try this. i heard some negative shit about 4-ad utt by a.m.s like since its in liquid form and not oral it passes the liver or it barely works... but my friend used it and says it was a good one for a novice user of p.h

id like to get your feedback, negative or positive i appreciate it ... thanks

i was gonna say 1 ad was banned a while back. ergo pharm amde it and it worked great.

 

[MattPorter]

hi i have a few questions or i wanted to see from everyone if this is a ok combo for a first prohormone cycle. a couple people already told me they dont really consider the supplement im going to take to be a prohormone but i figured this is the best category to post in.

SORRY ABOUT THE TITLE , I REALIZED I PURCHASED 4-ad not 1-ad

im 23 yrs old , 170 ibs, started training at 110 ibs

INFO:

4-ad utt (liquid form) by advanced muscle science
Revolution black PCT - i didnt buy aromx by advanced muscle science for pct because i thought this would be a better choice
of course some essentials:
Toco-8 - didnt think i needed this but wanted to try it so i threw it in the mix
fish oil , multivitamin, milk thistle,hawthorne berry just for any precaution

diet:
high protein , low carb , 4000 cal +


im not someone who has ever used prohormones or steroids but i figured i try this. i heard some negative shit about 4-ad utt by a.m.s like since its in liquid form and not oral it passes the liver or it barely works... but my friend used it and says it was a good one for a novice user of p.h

id like to get your feedback, negative or positive i appreciate it ... thanks

The info about its just DHEA is not accurate. 4Dhea is different than dhea. Regular dhea is great for adrenal support, cortisol, brain function etc...

4dhea, 1dhea , Rdhea and 19nordhea are different animals, while most suck due to shitty delivery, when delivered they work and are fairly safe.

AMS is under dosed and weak, so you would have to mega dose it. At that point some pretty respectable members have gotten good results.

The only company that delivers this stuff 90% or more is primordial's AndroSeries. AndroMass v3 is the 4dhea/DHT stack you would be best suited for.

It absorbs a hefty amount of miligrams into fatty acid esters through the lymphatic system and blocks steroid esterase enzymes through kaempferol and naringenin.

This will keep blood levels of anabolic intermediate hormones for 18-20 hours after one dose.

Also testosterone suppression is minimized by once a day dosing. If you had to choose AMS 4ad or Pp's androMass the choice is a no brainer.

-Matt

 

[nosCosThisThingOfOurs00]

I appreciate all the advice. Like i said id like to just gain 5-10 ibs from 4-ad, that would be perfect for me...but after considering everyone's insight, that probably wont happen unless I up the dose really high.
It says take 2 servings/day but i might up it to 4 servings/day and take a double dose twice daily.
I've been training naturally for 7 years with some good gains in the past considering I started out as the skinniest kid in my class. The past year has been a pain in the ass though because I hit a plateau in the gym and haven't gotten any stronger. I have gotten bigger though because I've been concentrating on my diet more and realized how important diet really is.

Thanks again to you all... i'll take any advice you can give

 

[nosCosThisThingOfOurs00]

The info about its just DHEA is not accurate. 4Dhea is different than dhea. Regular dhea is great for adrenal support, cortisol, brain function etc...

4dhea, 1dhea , Rdhea and 19nordhea are different animals, while most suck due to shitty delivery, when delivered they work and are fairly safe.

AMS is under dosed and weak, so you would have to mega dose it. At that point some pretty respectable members have gotten good results.

The only company that delivers this stuff 90% or more is primordial's AndroSeries. AndroMass v3 is the 4dhea/DHT stack you would be best suited for.

It absorbs a hefty amount of miligrams into fatty acid esters through the lymphatic system and blocks steroid esterase enzymes through kaempferol and naringenin.

This will keep blood levels of anabolic intermediate hormones for 18-20 hours after one dose.

Also testosterone suppression is minimized by once a day dosing. If you had to choose AMS 4ad or Pp's androMass the choice is a no brainer.

-Matt

yeah thanks for the tip. your def right about andromass being a better alternative. the dose is a lot higher .. so much fucking higher compared to 4-ad by a.m.s , (i cant believe how low the dose is in this supplement , its crazy). but i only payed 30 dollars for it so even if it doesnt work it wont be too bad of a loss.
the only thing about andromass is the price, sorry about the bitching but 200 dollars is a lot of money for a DHEA product. but i may have to check it out in the future.
thanks for the info