1st Cycle - 500mg Test Enanthate, 30mg Dbol

[Trill]

1st Cycle - 500mg Test Enanthate

This is going to be my first cycle.
I am 200lbs, 5'9 and 24yrs old and about 9% body fat.
I have been training for 5 years.
I've used PH's like m1t and masterdrol and am not getting gains I want.
I want that super thick 3d dense muscle.

Here is an example...
week 1-12 - 500 mg a week of test E (250mg twice a week)
week 1-14 - .25mg (1/4mg) everyday of Arimidex
week 1-14 - Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 300-500iu every 4th day
PCT...
Week 15-16 - 40mg of novladex everyday
Week 17-? - 20mg of novladex

 

[GymLift]

I actually like the cycle. Don't use the letrozole and you shouldn't need clomid. hCG during the cycle wouldn't hurt, but it isn't essential either.

Many will tell you to do testosterone only and skip the dbol and I agree, but you could do worse.

Those are decent stats, IMHO.

 

[Trill]

I am going to get HCG. I won't start my cycle til I find some. Why do u say no dbol?.. I will respond find to just the test e huh

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Your post cycle therapy (pct) timing is way off.

You must wait 14 days after your last inject to start. Your cycle ends after 12 weeks, you need to wait till week 15 to start post cycle therapy (pct), not week 13 as you have.

Also, you best do some more research into post cycle therapy (pct), because only 20mg of Nolvadex isn't going to do it !!

 

[GymLift]

I am going to get HCG. I won't start my cycle til I find some. Why do u say no dbol?.. I will respond find to just the test e huh

You should certainly respond to just the test E. the dbol is basically just for those that are impatient and want to see results ASAP. In my opinion, if you are that impatient, then....well, you know.

SCNTO is right regarding the post cycle therapy (pct)...I missed that.... post cycle therapy (pct) starts 2 weeks after you discontinue the cycle.

As for the dosage of Nolvadex, the standard is 40mg for a couple of weeks then 20mg. I'm personally of the opinion that 40mg of Nolvadex is overkill, but be warned...I'm in the minority. to be safe, do the 40mg/20mg thing.

 

[Aztech]

two weeks after the last test e shot, start pct...40mg ed for 2 weeks, the 20mg for at least two weeks and longer if need be. Running the dbol isn't going to kill you, just be aware it may make you feel bloated and may make you lower back sore after putting a load on it. add Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to, your testies will appreciate that.

 

[Trill]

For the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) I have heard to take it every 3 or 4 days of the cycle. I also hear to save it for the end and take it in a larger dose then taper down. Any suggestions?

 

[GymLift]

For the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) I have heard to take it every 3 or 4 days of the cycle. I also hear to save it for the end and take it in a larger dose then taper down. Any suggestions?

300-500iu every 3-4 days during the cycle, finishing just before PCT.

This is backed up by a physician that knows his shit.

Keep the gonads working, and you don't have to worry about recovering them. But you still have to worry about the hypothalamus-pituitary, which is why we have PCT.

 

[Trill]

How many calories should I consume for maximum muscle growth? I can handle putting on SOME fat but im gonna keep the calories as clean as possible to minimize fat storage. I was thinking 800cal per meal * 6 meals = 4800 cal a day. 2 grams of protein per pound of body weight.

 

[GymLift]

Some guys say that take in 5k-6k calories/day, but I'm convinced they can't count.

Take your usual diet and add 10% or something reasonable like that.

 

[Trill]

I could do 5-6k cal if I used a hefty weight gainer, but it makes me a fatty fatty mc fat pants. lol, anyone seen that xenadrine commercial?... America,.. Your fat! With the black dude dressed as a xendrine bottle.

I think ill get a big ass tub of weight gainer just for the fact that ill be at school for 8 hrs str8. Ill be able to whip up a shake quickly between classes.

 

[GymLift]

Weight gainer? That shit is full of sugar. You need oatmeal, protein, rice, broccoli, pasta, ...

 

[Trill]

It sucks but its either I drink a weight gainer shake or eat a protein bar or go without anything. I need somthin cuz I only got a 15 min break between classes, no time to make a meal.

 

[GymLift]

It sucks but its either I drink a weight gainer shake or eat a protein bar or go without anything. I need somthin cuz I only got a 15 min break between classes, no time to make a meal.

Beef jerky, protein bars, protein shakes, meat in a plastic tub, ...

 

[Trill]

I edited my cycle, how's it look now?

 

[GymLift]

Looks good, but you only need to run the Nolvadex at 40mg for two weeks, not three. But you can run it for three if you prefer.

 

[Trill]

Ah good point, I meant for 2 weeks.

 

[Rokomuscle1]

Drop the dbol... lower the dose of test to 300mg a week.. only use arimidex if you start to have nipple issues..then take at 1/2mg a day till it subsides... do post cycle therapy (pct) like SCNTO said... next cycle try 500mg a week..... for third consider adding dbol.... Just my opinions

 

[Trill]

Im sticking with JUST test e @ 500mg but what's wrong w my post cycle therapy (pct)? I edited it yesterday, look on top. Although I may change the way I use the hcg.

 

[Trill]

How much weight should I expect to gain runnin 500mg week of test e for 10 to 12 weeks? Lets say im eating 4000cal a day