1st time w/ deca shutdown city

[fog]

hey fellas. i've done my share of cycles in the past yet have never included deca. on this previous cycle, which ended 2/03/07 i ran the following

1-12 test 600 mg
1-11 deca 450mg

with some orals thrown in here and there. i ran a solid post cycle therapy (pct) (i thought) which was

nolva 40 40 30 30
hcg at 500iu's e5d
trib at 5gram per day
clen to finish up

the only thing i left out in post cycle therapy (pct) is clomid which i've never used and have always bounced back fine. i'm two weeks past ending post cycle therapy (pct) and i have the sex drive, sexual function, and libido of a 90 year old. absolutley nothin goin on downtown, 0. wondering if deca has shut me way the fuck down and if so how to recover. i still have nolva, provirion, clen, trib on hand but want to save proviron for next cycle which won't be for a minute. i'm single as can be so it's not a huge issue but it sucks to not "feel" like a man and it is worrisome as to when this will be resolved. any ops and advice are appreciated thanks. foggy

 

[DADAWG]

im old school, clomid trumps nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) . i would do 2 more weeks of post cycle therapy (pct) with 50-100 mg of clomid .

 

[outlawtas]

im old school, clomid trumps nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) . i would do 2 more weeks of post cycle therapy (pct) with 50-100 mg of clomid .

Yes at the bare minimum re-start post cycle therapy (pct) until you feel back.

 

[fog]

Yes at the bare minimum re-start post cycle therapy (pct) until you feel back.

and at the extreme minimum? help me out here fellas.

 

[tee]

Try what Dadawg says. That should help. Sometimes, time off is the only thing that will bring your sex drive back fully. Deca will definitely kill Mr. Happy. Especially in the dose range you took. I try to keep my Deca intake at 300mg tops. I love the stuff when I'm on, but it takes it a long time to clear the system and ruins your sex drive for some time as well.

 

[gator_mclusky]

Im old school as well....what works for me is clomid but i dont run HCG the whole way through. Ive mentioned on many occasions that I use HCG at 3-5000i.u in the middle of the cycle when libido seems to drop(around 8 wks) and i get immediate results and at the end of the cycle(about wk 16)...same dose with a follow up of Clomid. Always worked for me.

This works for me. Everyones different...good luck but that shot of HCG always brings me right back.

Good luck.

Gator

 

[GymLift]

Please do not inject 3000+ iu of hCG and risk desensitizing your leydig cells. There is absolutely no good reason to do that.

The trib causes more problems than it solves.

Start back on the nolvadex and order from clomid.

 

[sszapdog]

cabergoline and cialis EOD keeps the wood shop open

 

[gator_mclusky]

Please do not inject 3000+ iu of hCG and risk desensitizing your leydig cells. There is absolutely no good reason to do that.

The trib causes more problems than it solves.

Start back on the nolvadex and order from clomid.

You spread it out over 3-7 days whatver gets ya jumpstarted. Ive done it for yrs
IMO...its the long term use that will shut down the leydig cells permanantly no matter how low the dose.

Another thing is that people are using 500 i.u.s 2-3 times a week yet their libido is still going down to crap from what im hearing.

JMHO on the dosages.

 

[monstro54245]

Go for the yellow or blue pill till the wood gets back in the bat.

 

[Phil9999]

I ran deca at a gram w out any problems. Ive been off for a month now and my prick is still working fine.

 

[Old Balls]

it sounds like Deca can be hit and miss for your dick and sex drive. I never really had a prob, but I ran lower doses...why don't you use some sort of test or Viagra and post cycle therapy (pct) until things stabalize?

 

[monstro54245]

try the liquid cialis from research-ology. shake the shit out of it though and squirt/pump it like 10-12 shots. puts the oo in the wd

 

[Thoms]

I agree, try to rerun your pct. Clomid is a good idea, considerng nolva didn't get the job done.

 

[SteelSouth]

I believe Deca is the reason my sperm count was low. I went to a Urologist yesterday and was informed that the sperm your testicles produce today will not be ejaculated until 2.5 months later. This means the sample I gave 3 weeks ago was the sperm produced right after I came off a Test/Deca cycle. Hmmm...interesting.

On another note, I still feel shut down after running the following PCT.

HCG 500iu's every 3.5 days during cycle
Clomid 50mg weeks 1-4 following cycle
Nolva 40mg weeks 1-3 20mg weeks 4-8

I'll know soon enough, he ordered a blood sample providing LH, FSH, Test, and Prolactin levels.

 

[Rida5d]

I believe Deca is the reason my sperm count was low. I went to a Urologist yesterday and was informed that the sperm your testicles produce today will not be ejaculated until 2.5 months later. This means the sample I gave 3 weeks ago was the sperm produced right after I came off a Test/Deca cycle. Hmmm...interesting.

On another note, I still feel shut down after running the following PCT.

HCG 500iu's every 3.5 days during cycle
Clomid 50mg weeks 1-4 following cycle
Nolva 40mg weeks 1-3 20mg weeks 4-8

I'll know soon enough, he ordered a blood sample providing LH, FSH, Test, and Prolactin levels.

Scary , with all those precautions u took..
So damn scary

 

[Simpletest]

There 2 things I feel u slipped on which is one u didn't add clomid and u stopped decca 1 week before test which should be 3-4weeks.

 

[H 3 L L S M A N]

and at the extreme minimum? help me out here fellas.

Also get blood work done to see where you stand, don't just go off feeling.