2 17aa Steroids at once?

[roidjuice]

I'm planning a cycle that has Anavar and Winstrol (winny) in it. I would like to have the Var run throughout the cycle and have the Winstrol (winny) the last 6 weeks in addition to the Anavar (var). They both would be 50mg/ED so it would be 100mg total of 17aa steroids going through my liver. How bad is this for my liver. I will be on many liver protectants. i know that everyone is going to say that is is horrible but I'm not plannig on doing it every cycle. This is probably a once and done thing.

 

[AP2]

That is why I posted that under ur other thread. I wasn't sure how you felt about it. Pretty harsh I know that

 

[roidjuice]

Anyone know if it is worse to take 2 different 17aa's (total of 100mg ED) at one time or is it the same as taking 100mg of one 17aa. Is it the mg dosage or is it the combining of the 2? THanks

 

[Drveejay11]

No.......50 mg of Winstrol (winny) + 50 mg of Var is pretty equivalent to 100 mg var or 100 mg Winny.

TOO much IMO!!!

If you are DEAD set on 2 different 17-aa, you "could try" 30 mg var/day + 30 mg winny/day!

I think you'd be happier using 50-60 mg Var though.

Whatever you chose, try to keep it to a 6 week max!

Got it??? Kewl

 

[Batman]

Of course I would say it's too much. Of course I would say that 6 weeks @ 100 plus (!) some other ones @ 50 (anavar only) worsen the whole thing. Of course you will do it anyway trusting on your liver protectants. Of course you will not die because of this cycle. So, good luck, bro.

 

[roidjuice]

I'm open to changing my cycle. I probably don't need to use that much considering this is only my third cycle.

 

[Batman]

I'm open to changing my cycle. I probably don't need to use that much considering this is only my third cycle.

This is a very smart statement, my friend!
I'm sure you can find the way to reach your goals (BTW: what are your goals with this cycle?) without using all those aa17.

 

[ready2explode]

No.......50 mg of Winstrol (winny) + 50 mg of Var is pretty equivalent to 100 mg var or 100 mg Winny.

TOO much IMO!!!

If you are DEAD set on 2 different 17-aa, you "could try" 30 mg var/day + 30 mg winny/day!

I think you'd be happier using 50-60 mg Var though.

Whatever you chose, try to keep it to a 6 week max!

Got it??? Kewl

Hey DJ, you upped the dosage of var that you usually recommend...I remember that you were going to run var in a cycle, and was wondering if that was the reason why...

 

[dirty-dog]

the liver is one of the only human organs able to regenerate itself. if you're young, healthy, taking liver protectants and somewhat responsible i can't see it doing that much harm.

others will swear you'll get jaundice, liver failure, etc...but realistically you're liver values will be a little higher on the standard blood workup and you'll never even know it b/c most people dont' get their blood tested mid cycle.

 

[Johny J]

I would use them seperatly personally. Not because of the liver thing, but because it would be better to make to seperate cycles out of them.
Test+var for one cycle, and tes+winny for the other one.

 

[Trevdog]

I've never heard of any synergystic effect of combining two 17aas, I've done it before, e.g. winstrol/anadrol, winstrol/dbol, winstrol/anavar, dbol/anavar.

I figure you are just looking at the sum of the stress of the two drugs you use.

People routinely use 100+ mgs of anadrol ed and I've not seen any convincing evidence that this is overly harmful.

Of course you want to be cautious and use all the protectants you can, but I don't think what you proposed is insane or anything. Go for it, hehehehehe.

 

[Spectre]

I can use allot of one 17aa, but with two at normal dossage my liver values, specifically GGT get too high for comfort. If you are going to play around at that level (and you better make money doing it) get regular blood panels. Use something else with another 'pathway', such as gh or insulin if you need too. IMHO

 

[Trevdog]

Well there you go. Spectre has been tested and the test seem to show a synergystic effect.

Use caution.

I'll have to reconsider what I've done before.

 

[Spectre]

I can use allot of one 17aa, but with two at normal dossage my liver values, specifically GGT get too high for comfort. If you are going to play around at that level (and you better make money doing it) get regular blood panels. Use something else with another 'pathway', such as gh or insulin if you need too. IMHO

I have only done this with Winstrol (winny) and Dbol at 50mg each a day. But this came up a few times on EF and a few other reported the same effect and a few were fine. Thaibox had his liver shut down on this amount and I think it was JC who was fine. The rule of thumb is feed your liver only one toxin at a time.

 

[Drveejay11]

Hey DJ, you upped the dosage of var that you usually recommend...I remember that you were going to run var in a cycle, and was wondering if that was the reason why...

Where in the HELL have you been hiding??

LOL........