2 months post Nebido. Frustrated..

[DexterM]

Hi guys,

I have been diagnosed with low T. About 241 ng/dl and I am a 24 year old male. This is the 8th week I am on it (Around 2 months) and well, I have yet to see any changes.

Sure, I "think" I feel better but there are no changes with respect to my facial hair, voice or muscle mass for that matter. How much times does it take to notice these changes? Am I being too impatient?

 

[johnfromeurope]

You are on nebido? Well thats cool, but...What dose of nebido? How often?

You can't expect to turn into a superman just beacuse you took one shot of nebido...

 

[DexterM]

Nebido 1000mg/4ml every 12 weeks.

Of course not, but I have seen people noticing changes in terms of their facial hair and muscle mass in week 4 - week 6..

Maybe I'm just being too impatient.

 

[bigben66]

Have you had your 6 week booster injection?

Everyone who starts on Nebido has their 1st jab, and then another 'booster' injection 6 weeks later.

Then it is down to your urologist to do regular blood tests to finalise your injection frequency via peaks and troughs.

12 weeks is a worst case scenario - after regular blood tests over a 1yr period, I have finalised my protocol of 1000mg/4ml every 4 weeks (which I split into 500mg/2ml every fortnight)

 

[juced_porkchop]

Nebido 1000mg/4ml every 12 weeks.

Of course not, but I have seen people noticing changes in terms of their facial hair and muscle mass in week 4 - week 6..

Maybe I'm just being too impatient.

most use teste or cyp. give it couple more months. go for bloods too

 

[Mr.Port]

Nebido 1000mg/4ml every 12 weeks.

Of course not, but I have seen people noticing changes in terms of their facial hair and muscle mass in week 4 - week 6..

Maybe I'm just being too impatient.

I think its supposed to be taken every 1 or 2 weeks and some push it to 4 weeks but its not good. Am I right?

 

[RIB]

Strange, 2nd injection should be after 6th week. Talk to your uro and ask to check what your test lvl is now.

 

[Profion9k]

I started at 265 and felt like shit, all the symptoms, tired, drowzy, dead, unsocial, lost hair, no beard, lost musclemass, depression and so on! I am primary hypogondoal from chemo and sugery.

Got my first jab, and felt amazing after 1 week! Basicly me and my endo cooperate, and we are now injecting every 6week... Bloods and my symptoms pointed out that i can not go lower then 15nmol.. So my high is 40nmol and low is 20nol = every 6 week

 

[johnfromeurope]

On the 8th week after first shot, your levels are probably just around 350 and your gonna have a rough time till the 12th week. As bigben said, you should get booster dose, depending on the bloodwork.

 

[bigben66]

I think its supposed to be taken every 1 or 2 weeks and some push it to 4 weeks but its not good. Am I right?

Wrong!
Test Undecanoate is fantastic for TRT - less jabs, steady state T levels and no peaks and troughs - therefore no E2 spikes.

Unfortunately it is VERY hard to finalise your injection protocol and the set-up has to be done properly - ie: booster injection at 6wks.

I've been on Undecanoate (Nebido) for over 18 months now - the last 9 months have been great!

Don't write it off too soon.

 

[johnfromeurope]

Bigben, How high are your blood values now after 18 months and that the testosterone has built up...Did you have to decrease the dose? Are your levels at 18 months higher than, for example at 4 months, on the same dose?

 

[bigben66]

Yes, they were about 10% higher than they were at 4 months.
Been on a blast for the last 2 months - so can't really count them now!

 

[johnfromeurope]

yep...how do you feel now on a blast, as i read you had much problems dialing in...Are you ok as long as you keep your estrogen in check or are there other factors?

 

[bigben66]

I feel fucking amazing man!
Currently running a gram a week of PSL Test and a medicinal dose of Deca (joints) along with 0.5mg Adex every day and HCG @ 250iu every 3.5 days.

Training is out of this world and libido is sky high.

Was running the Adex every other day, but noticed a slight bloat so brought it down over the last week by going every day.

 

[johnfromeurope]

good dose..

 

[bigben66]

good dose..

Yeah, I've ran a few cycles now, built up to it...
Plus hopefully stepping on stage next year so need to get my game face on

 

[Profion9k]

Aye jow bigben! So you inject 500ml every 2nd week? 1000 E4W in total?

Doc mentioned something about adding in gels for my TRT. Wich means 1-6nebido and 4-6gels? What do you think about that. Nevertheless you are blasting now, is the testosteron you are using UG or Legit T?

- Is it not going to affect you blood levels?
- are you not doing bloodwork why blasting?
- Will your other hormones, lipids not show up differently on BW after you are off... Maybe it´ll mess with your TRT-doc?

Ah and yes. Since starting TRT my overall life has greatly improved, but it seems like my libido is less, and erection quality is worse? Ive spoke to some guys and they all say that when they go higher above trt it helps with their libido?

 

[RIB]

Aye jow bigben! So you inject 500ml every 2nd week? 1000 E4W in total?

Doc mentioned something about adding in gels for my TRT. Wich means 1-6nebido and 4-6gels? What do you think about that. Nevertheless you are blasting now, is the testosteron you are using UG or Legit T?

- Is it not going to affect you blood levels?
- are you not doing bloodwork why blasting?
- Will your other hormones, lipids not show up differently on BW after you are off... Maybe it´ll mess with your TRT-doc?

Ah and yes. Since starting TRT my overall life has greatly improved, but it seems like my libido is less, and erection quality is worse? Ive spoke to some guys and they all say that when they go higher above trt it helps with their libido?

Combining Nebido with gel is definetly the future!
Injections give peaks and peaks will hurt your prostate in the long run(and other parts of your body). I get low estrodiol from gel and high estrodiol from injections, some people get high estro from gel and low on injections... You have to try and see what happens. I get pain in my legs 2 weeks after Nebido injections which is a sure sign of high estrodiol for my body. When you feel that your body is running low on T but its not low enough to get a injection you scrub your shoulders and put that gel on, make sure to scrub it with warm water so your gel area is a bit red. That will make your body to absorb gel better. Have in mind that you need to cover that area with a T-shirt and make sure that only you touch that shirt or you might affect other people hormone ballance.
Alot of people get high test to have a bigger body but after 10-15 years there prostate is finnished so preventing that from happening that mix is a great idea.

If you like young women you should go for Testim, its included with the pheromone pentadecalactone which activates hypothalamus in women. Im 41 and i sleep with 21 year old models, they all tell me how my smell makes them horney.