2 pins versus 3 pins a week

[texas.redneck]

I've been doing two 1cc pins of Test E per week for 500mg total. I finally got used to the quad falling off newbie sensation but wondering if dividing into 3 pins a week will provide more consistent blood levels of Testosterone and maybe reduce PIP. I feel like I peak at certain times and then come back down before next pin. For example, I pin sunday morning and Tuesday night I'm driving home from work feeling totally jacked like I gotta go to gym to get it outta my system. Then Wednesday morning a little crash and then pin again Wednesday night. Is that only my imagination or would it even out if I spread to three 2/3cc pins a sunday/tuesday/thurs?

 

[Teutonic]

Not really, no...

 

[luckypaul]

You are good a 2 times a week. You wouldn't notice any difference imo.

 

[oldmusclemike]

I've been doing two 1cc pins of Test E per week for 500mg total. I finally got used to the quad falling off newbie sensation but wondering if dividing into 3 pins a week will provide more consistent blood levels of Testosterone and maybe reduce PIP. I feel like I peak at certain times and then come back down before next pin. For example, I pin sunday morning and Tuesday night I'm driving home from work feeling totally jacked like I gotta go to gym to get it outta my system. Then Wednesday morning a little crash and then pin again Wednesday night. Is that only my imagination or would it even out if I spread to three 2/3cc pins a sunday/tuesday/thurs?

Here you are again with more crap. If there would be ANY benefit to doing that would you not think we would be doing it, or suggesting it. You seem to be trying to re-invent the wheel.

WE say no Q' s are stupid and due to just curiosity that's true I guess but some of the things you say man IMOP border stupid.

Sorry that's what I get out of you incessant Q's and theories.

If three would be better why not 4 or just EOD. Hmmm Hell then better yet ED. Now that would settle any peaks and valleys , Ya think ??

 

[halfwit]

I've been doing two 1cc pins of Test E per week for 500mg total. I finally got used to the quad falling off newbie sensation but wondering if dividing into 3 pins a week will provide more consistent blood levels of Testosterone and maybe reduce PIP. I feel like I peak at certain times and then come back down before next pin. For example, I pin sunday morning and Tuesday night I'm driving home from work feeling totally jacked like I gotta go to gym to get it outta my system. Then Wednesday morning a little crash and then pin again Wednesday night. Is that only my imagination or would it even out if I spread to three 2/3cc pins a sunday/tuesday/thurs?

There is zero difference after multiple half-lives with the enanthate ester. It only matters with the shorter ones. The caveat being if you're pinning large volumes, which multiple pins per week will help with.

I hope you're not just injecting your quads...

 

[texas.redneck]

Here you are again with more crap. If there would be ANY benefit to doing that would you not think we would be doing it, or suggesting it. You seem to be trying to re-invent the wheel.

WE say no Q' s are stupid and due to just curiosity that's true I guess but some of the things you say man IMOP border stupid.

Sorry that's what I get out of you incessant Q's and theories.

If three would be better why not 4 or just EOD. Hmmm Hell then better yet ED. Now that would settle any peaks and valleys , Ya think ??

glad no one else thought it was a retarded question and gave some good advice to stick with two pins per week. If you don't want me participating on your gay ass bodybuilding forum just disable and remove me.

My cycle plan was sound to begin with. My plan has always been as follows:

10 weeks 500mg Test
Arimedex 0.5mg eod
Hcg 250 Iu's 3x's a week for the 2 Weeks prior to starting PCT
Clomid and nolva for pct

It's the most basic cycle there is and I even got extras of everything on hand and mapped everything out in a spreadsheet complete with hyperlinks and screen shots to legit articles (not forum posts) where I got my info from. And I got precycle bloodwork done. We can debate about the hcg placement in my cycle but I think thats about it. I waivered in the beginning of my cycle when I was thinking about using some nolva instead of arimadex on cycle and/or not even taking an AI at all. But i changed my mind about that and stuck with plan A.

The only other thing I can't decide on is doing the hcg the entire duration of my cycle versus end of cycle. But probably by the time I make up my mind about that it will be the end of my cycle so I'll just stick with plan A.

So what other incessant questions bug you? Just because I peruse this forum and ask random questions doesnt really mean I'm doing anything as far as changing Plan A above. So far i'm going onto week three and seems to be going well. This however was a legit question and i was considering dividing into three pins. But thanks to you all i'll just stick to the plan

 

[texas.redneck]

There is zero difference after multiple half-lives with the enanthate ester. It only matters with the shorter ones. The caveat being if you're pinning large volumes, which multiple pins per week will help with.

I hope you're not just injecting your quads...

Makes sense. So far i been rotating from quad to glute then other quad and other glute. Why do you ask? Or warn about just injecting quads?

 

[Teutonic]

Ur welcome for the tip.

I AM a redneck too and furthermore this is my GAY ASS FORUM BOY . I will relish banning u for taking such offense Mike s post with such vehemence that u collectively insulted us all.

But I don t want to Texas..we try to keep it civil and Mike did poke u in the eye..thats a given. I ve found it best to jut ignore that which bothers me or address the person bugging me.

It s all good, OK ?

 

[texas.redneck]

Ur welcome for the tip.

I AM a redneck too and furthermore this is my GAY ASS FORUM BOY . I will relish banning u for taking such offense Mike s post with such vehemence that u collectively insulted us all.

But I don t want to Texas..we try to keep it civil and Mike did poke u in the eye..thats a given. I ve found it best to jut ignore that which bothers me or address the person bugging me.

It s all good, OK ?

Yeah, it was probably a little knee jerk reaction to stereotype the entire forum....hahaha

 

[oldmusclemike]

Ur welcome for the tip.

I AM a redneck too and furthermore this is my GAY ASS FORUM BOY . I will relish banning u for taking such offense Mike s post with such vehemence that u collectively insulted us all.

But I don t want to Texas..we try to keep it civil and Mike did poke u in the eye..thats a given. I ve found it best to jut ignore that which bothers me or address the person bugging me.

It s all good, OK ?

Admitted I need to just ignore what bothers me. It's been a problem with me however I try, sometimes. But OP you have rubbed many on this forum the wrong way and that's where I loose patience.

But then Patience is a virtue I've been working it seem all my life. TooTuff seems to be a much more patient person and I commend him. However you now disrespected the whole forum and that's the attitude I don't give room for.

You see you dragged everyone into the problem you have with one, ME. In any arena that's not good.

 

[texas.redneck]

Admitted I need to just ignore what bothers me. It's been a problem with me however I try, sometimes. But OP you have rubbed many on this forum the wrong way and that's where I loose patience.

But then Patience is a virtue I've been working it seem all my life. TooTuff seems to be a much more patient person and I commend him. However you now disrespected the whole forum and that's the attitude I don't give room for.

You see you dragged everyone into the problem you have with one, ME. In any arena that's not good.

Oh man, I had a really funny come back for this one but I should probably shut my newbie ass up....oh wait...almost said it....no....i better just stop

 

[soldier74]

Admitted I need to just ignore what bothers me. It's been a problem with me however I try, sometimes. But OP you have rubbed many on this forum the wrong way and that's where I loose patience.

But then Patience is a virtue I've been working it seem all my life. TooTuff seems to be a much more patient person and I commend him. However you now disrespected the whole forum and that's the attitude I don't give room for.

You see you dragged everyone into the problem you have with one, ME. In any arena that's not good.

fuck yeah! i stand with ya brother. too many come on this forum acting foolish and disrepecting all, so i understand taking the deffensive from time to time until someone shows what they r really all about. because of the nonsense that comes here its almost "guilty until proven innocent", which is sad but true.
T is definantly a patient bro...good for the forum.

 

[halfape211]

glad no one else thought it was a retarded question and gave some good advice to stick with two pins per week. If you don't want me participating on your gay ass bodybuilding forum just disable and remove me.

My cycle plan was sound to begin with. My plan has always been as follows:

10 weeks 500mg Test
Arimedex 0.5mg eod
Hcg 250 Iu's 3x's a week for the 2 Weeks prior to starting PCT
Clomid and nolva for pct

It's the most basic cycle there is and I even got extras of everything on hand and mapped everything out in a spreadsheet complete with hyperlinks and screen shots to legit articles (not forum posts) where I got my info from. And I got precycle bloodwork done. We can debate about the hcg placement in my cycle but I think thats about it. I waivered in the beginning of my cycle when I was thinking about using some nolva instead of arimadex on cycle and/or not even taking an AI at all. But i changed my mind about that and stuck with plan A.

The only other thing I can't decide on is doing the hcg the entire duration of my cycle versus end of cycle. But probably by the time I make up my mind about that it will be the end of my cycle so I'll just stick with plan A.

So what other incessant questions bug you? Just because I peruse this forum and ask random questions doesnt really mean I'm doing anything as far as changing Plan A above. So far i'm going onto week three and seems to be going well. This however was a legit question and i was considering dividing into three pins. But thanks to you all i'll just stick to the plan

TexasRedneck: oldmuscleMike was a little rough on you. He gets a little contrary every once in a while. Probably his old age. ;-0 But usually he's a very helpful guy. I know it is kind of awkward and slightly intimidating to first post here. And I can understand your first reaction to being shit on is to give a little shit back. Then TooTuff gets rubbed the wrong way and we're off to another battle. lol So Texasredneck, just don't take oldmusclemike's comment to heart. As you will see this is a great forum. And for two guys I respect (Oldmusclemike and Tootuff) and all the other pros here, lets be a little gentler on our newest members. Texas.Redneck seems to just be a very curious guy, like myself. No one wants to be shit on just for asking a question, or at least wait until he becomes more comfortable here. ;-) Somedays I'm a contrary old bastard, so I'm not saying I'm perfect, just trying to put things in perspective. Everybody have a nice Saturday.

PS You're a good guy oldmusclemike under all that toughness. You really mean to be helpful. I hope you have a great Saturday as well.

 

[Milton]

At ease troops, smoke em if you got them.

 

[soldier74]

yep..time for another marlboro

 

[oldmusclemike]

See Texas, this forum is a good place. Just remember that some of us react to exogenous test in unwanted ways at times. Not an excuse but a mitigating fact.

I am old Halfape, ha, and on cycle ...

Enough about it, back to the forum's real purpose.

 

[halfape211]

glad no one else thought it was a retarded question and gave some good advice to stick with two pins per week. If you don't want me participating on your gay ass bodybuilding forum just disable and remove me.

My cycle plan was sound to begin with. My plan has always been as follows:

10 weeks 500mg Test
Arimedex 0.5mg eod
Hcg 250 Iu's 3x's a week for the 2 Weeks prior to starting PCT
Clomid and nolva for pct

It's the most basic cycle there is and I even got extras of everything on hand and mapped everything out in a spreadsheet complete with hyperlinks and screen shots to legit articles (not forum posts) where I got my info from. And I got precycle bloodwork done. We can debate about the hcg placement in my cycle but I think thats about it. I waivered in the beginning of my cycle when I was thinking about using some nolva instead of arimadex on cycle and/or not even taking an AI at all. But i changed my mind about that and stuck with plan A.

The only other thing I can't decide on is doing the hcg the entire duration of my cycle versus end of cycle. But probably by the time I make up my mind about that it will be the end of my cycle so I'll just stick with plan A.

So what other incessant questions bug you? Just because I peruse this forum and ask random questions doesnt really mean I'm doing anything as far as changing Plan A above. So far i'm going onto week three and seems to be going well. This however was a legit question and i was considering dividing into three pins. But thanks to you all i'll just stick to the plan

I'm new to cycles and blasting, but I've been on TRT for a couple years so I will make one comment. And then others with more experience on cycling will give their advice. I would personally take the HCG from the start. Why would anyone want their balls shut down? WHy would you want to shut down your HPA pathway? No good reason that I can think of. And you get a further boost of your TT levels. I'm no judge of cycles, but yours seems well thought out (to me). Obviously you are a very detailed person and that's a good thing. Stick around. This is a great forum with great guys.

Anybody else have a comment??

 

[texas.redneck]

TexasRedneck: Texas.Redneck seems to just be a very curious guy, like myself. No one wants to be shit on just for asking a question, or at least wait until he becomes more comfortable here. ;-) Somedays I'm a contrary old bastard, so I'm not saying I'm perfect, just trying to put things in perspective.

To be honest they are right, I can't resist sometimes stirring shit up on internet forums and asking silly questions to get rises out of people who are so adamant their point of view is the gospel. Whenever I see someone on an internet forum who is like "THIS IS THE WAY YOU DO IT DAMNIT AND THERE IS NO OTHER RIGHT WAY" I can't resist giving them some pushback.

This particular question that is the subject of this thread was legit. I really was debating if I should do 3 pins instead of two. You all saved me from that mistake. Thanks!

Also someone above asked me if I was only injecting quads. I'm rotating between quads and glutes but wondering why he asked? Is it bad just rotate between quads? Should I throw my delt in the mix? I'm using 1" 23g. Is that too big for delt?

 

[texas.redneck]

I'm new to cycles and blasting, but I've been on TRT for a couple years so I will make one comment. And then others with more experience on cycling will give their advice. I would personally take the HCG from the start. Why would anyone want their balls shut down? WHy would you want to shut down your HPA pathway? No good reason that I can think of. And you get a further boost of your TT levels. I'm no judge of cycles, but yours seems well thought out (to me). Obviously you are a very detailed person and that's a good thing. Stick around. This is a great forum with great guys.

Anybody else have a comment??

Let's talk HCG on one of the other many threads about this. I replied to a couple recently asking some of my "incessant" questions and ridiculous theories because its such a ridiculous theory that someone would only do hcg the last couple weeks on cycle....

 

[halfape211]

To be honest they are right, I can't resist sometimes stirring shit up on internet forums and asking silly questions to get rises out of people who are so adamant their point of view is the gospel. Whenever I see someone on an internet forum who is like "THIS IS THE WAY YOU DO IT DAMNIT AND THERE IS NO OTHER RIGHT WAY" I can't resist giving them some pushback.

This particular question that is the subject of this thread was legit. I really was debating if I should do 3 pins instead of two. You all saved me from that mistake. Thanks!

Also someone above asked me if I was only injecting quads. I'm rotating between quads and glutes but wondering why he asked? Is it bad just rotate between quads? Should I throw my delt in the mix? I'm using 1" 23g. Is that too big for delt?

When I can't figure who is the wronged and who is the wrong doer, it's time for me to give up and go to the gym. At least everybody is being very civil and there is peace in the land.