2nd cycle short test prop/tren ace

[YourBasicJOE]

just about to finalize my plans for a second cycle to start near end of month and wanted to see what you all think.. I really want to do a shorter cycle, but unsure if its the right thing to do..

some background:
24
5'8
170 @ 10-11%
longtime lifting experience/ ACSM CPT

my first cycle was your run of the mill test e only 500/wk for 12 weeks.. other than blowing up like a balloon, good first cycle, no sides and kept about 15lbs.. now im ready for a second and wanted to play with tren, but keep it shorter, like 6 weeks, instead of 10+.. so here is what i was thinking:

cycle:
wk1-6 test prop 100mg EOD
wk1-4(or 5) tren ace 75mg EOD
a-dex .25mg EOD throughout
HCG 250iu 2x/wk till mid-week 5

PCT
(not totally sure yet) but either:
Clomid 150/100/50
Nolva 20 ED

OR

Nolva only 40/40/20



thoughts??

 

[R1rider]

I would not recommend tren for a second cycle. tren is powerful stuff and should be for a 5th or 6th cycle

 

[irishmaniac]

I would not recommend tren for a second cycle. tren is powerful stuff and should be for a 5th or 6th cycle

i have to disagreee with you on this bro. I mean, tren is powerful but it's nothing to be all scared of. Suddenly people are talking like you can't use it unless you're highly experienced. i see this on another forum i frequent.... I've ran it...ran it as part of my 2nd AAS cycle and it was great. I think 90% of the "tren sides" are mental and are caused by all this reading on why you should be real seasoned before you run tren. People have this preconceived notion that tren IS going to hurt you, when in fact, as long as you dose it properly and monitor any and all sides, you should/will be fine.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i think the cycle is too short-and i also think you should save tren for a later run. you should try other less potent AAS first, cause if you try the less potent ones later they prolly wont live up to their expectations

 

[irishmaniac]

i think the cycle is too short-and i also think you should save tren for a later run. you should try other less potent AAS first, cause if you try the less potent ones later they prolly wont live up to their expectations

i agree. cycle is too short. run prop for 8 weeks and tren for 6 if you INSIST on running a short cycle.

i see what you mean in that aspect bro, and i 100% agree with you. lol. i guess i actually kinda fucked myself by running tren so soon in the sense of now, any other AAS i run will sadly NOT measure up and compare anywhere to the same level as tren.

 

[jimbo79]

i have to disagreee with you on this bro. I mean, tren is powerful but it's nothing to be all scared of. Suddenly people are talking like you can't use it unless you're highly experienced. i see this on another forum i frequent.... I've ran it...ran it as part of my 2nd AAS cycle and it was great. I think 90% of the "tren sides" are mental and are caused by all this reading on why you should be real seasoned before you run tren. People have this preconceived notion that tren IS going to hurt you, when in fact, as long as you dose it properly and monitor any and all sides, you should/will be fine.

x2

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

its all good maniac-i think youll be fine-they key to having something live up to its expectations-is to not expect too much.

 

[superhuman98]

Irish....

Sorry to kind of hijack this thread and take it to the 1st cycle questions. I admit I wasnt as prepared as I thought I was.

I just finished 10 week cycle of test-c and that is all I have done. It has been two weeks since my last injection. I did 1 cc a week.

1) How the heck you all get your hands on most of this?

2) How worried should I be about not having anything (product wise) for PCT?

I thought I researched decently, but not apparently enough. I am willing to take my lumps and get my ass educated.

Btw - GO N.D.

 

[Turtleneck1971]

That cycle is way to short and short ester or not isn't gonna result in much. As for running Tren as a second cycle I feel you should get a lil more experience before trying it. It's all fun until your cock goes limp and then it gets to be a lil annoying. I don't think there is enough Test in that ratio and not even a thought of Proviron.

 

[irishmaniac]

its all good maniac-i think youll be fine-they key to having something live up to its expectations-is to not expect too much.

shit, im gonna be running tren again here in a month or so. hehehehe. i LOVED it bro.

 

[safety-man]

if you want your cycle to be that short i would suggest going with prop and dbols, and even then i wouldnt run it less then 8 weeks for the prop and 5-6 weeks for the dbols.

 

[YourBasicJOE]

thanks for the advice guys and im definately taking everything into consideration, and i actually will have enough gear to go out to 8 and 6 weeks respectively, but i've heard shorter cycles are beneficial because your not shut down as long, therefore easier recovery, less waiting time between cycles (versus 12 weeker) so that was my rationale behind a shorter cycle.

I am/was leaning twords tren for a few reasons.. I grew up with a severe autoimmune disease and was subsequently treated with a shit ton of prednisone all growing up (im actually 1/2 ft shorter than my dad and bros, prolly from the steroids) therefore i'm not too crazy to ever try any c17 alpha alkylated compounds (im sure enough damage has been done from corticosteroids), dbol seems to be only water weight, and the only one i might consider would be Winstrol (winny) but im not trying to cut, so no go.

I am also sitting for the border patrol exam in a few months, and while this is not my goal career, it's on the back burner as something to do for a few years while the economy sucks.. with that in mind i'm not really eager to do any 19-nor compounds either since they are detectable for 18 months (I highly doubt that border patrol does a steroid profile on every applicant along with reg drug test) so it would be best to avoid the 19-nors...


to sum up, no c17 alpha alkylated or 19-nor compounds... if not tren, what else does anyone recommend i look into? still considering just doing a test prop only cycle (maybe with proviron?) if everyone is adamant about not using tren on 2nd cycle..

 

[Benjamin258456]

i have to disagreee with you on this bro. I mean, tren is powerful but it's nothing to be all scared of. Suddenly people are talking like you can't use it unless you're highly experienced. i see this on another forum i frequent.... I've ran it...ran it as part of my 2nd AAS cycle and it was great. I think 90% of the "tren sides" are mental and are caused by all this reading on why you should be real seasoned before you run tren. People have this preconceived notion that tren IS going to hurt you, when in fact, as long as you dose it properly and monitor any and all sides, you should/will be fine.

well god dam said, period.

 

[llD3MONll]

I would not recommend tren for a second cycle. tren is powerful stuff and should be for a 5th or 6th cycle

agree. then when u get to your 5th or 6th cycle "if you do" there will be nothing crazzy to try out

 

[YourBasicJOE]

yeah, due to finances i'll probably drop the tren, but isant dbol mostly water weight? it seems excessive water weight = stretch marks, plus i've always been able to tell when someones on dbols, and like i said im a personal trainer so i'd like to attempt to not have the fact im on gear be patently obvios to everyone at the gym..