3.5 yrs Natty progress (PICS), and questions regarding first cycle

cbake7

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natty for a bit longer

before pic is of me at 16 about 6-8 months into lifting seriously- 5'3 105lbs. 13%?
bench- 85
deadlift- 115
squat- 115

second pic is of me now 3.5 years later
- 5'6 160 10-12%
bench- 245
squat- 345(need to improve)
dead- 395(need to improve)

I know you guys recommend to wait until midbefore the first cycle.
have been busting my ass in the gym and the kitchen for 5 years by that time.

I know my natty test will still be high, My question is do you guys believe a cycle at that age is safe given that I plan on 500/wk test, and carry the cycle out maturely, with proper PCT?

(moved from a different forum, perhaps a mod can delete the duplicate in 'my cycle' forum? sorry)

Thanks in advance
 
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Not safe, jumping on AAS now will definetly close the door on bone growth for example, as your 19 you can still grow. Also your test is still high, stay natty for a few more years ;)

BTW you have a great base, keep it up.
 
leave well enough alone.
natural test levels don't start to see a decline until age 30 (and from that point on, they fall by like 1%/year).
You're looking solid, keep up your efforts and keep breaking those personal limits.
 
You look great man, you obviously have good genetics and are training your ass off, I would stay natural until about 25 and see where you are at you might change your mind and just stay natural.
 
stay natty bro. you dont want to fuck with your htpa at your age plus you can take advantage of your already high natty test levels.
 
definetly stay naty unless ur trying to be a pro bb in which case still wait till ur at least 21. although u may not be growing apperance wise ur body is still finishing ur growth. the average male will fully mature growth wise around 21 then the fun starts as far as muscle building. u haven't even hit peak strength over the next few yrs u will feel like ur on the juice anyways. aas is not the answer for every situation and in ur case ur short enough that with just naty u could build a thick physique in a matter of a couple years. gl and make an educated decision.
 
Thanks for the reply's everyone

I guess it's just extremely tempting since the gains don't come as easy as they used to. I don't know if I could wait till 25 to be honest.

But I could wait until around 23. Given my experience is that acceptable?
 
At your age and hearing "stay natural" is something Im sure you do not want to hear but its the best, safest way to be right now bro. Get all you can get out of your natural test.
 
look at how far you have come, why not push the natty envelope until an appropriate age. Who knows how far you can still go.
 
At your age and hearing "stay natural" is something Im sure you do not want to hear but its the best, safest way to be right now bro. Get all you can get out of your natural test.
Yeah it's not what i want to hear, but it's what I expected, even if I disagree with you guys. you're probably right.

look at how far you have come, why not push the natty envelope until an appropriate age. Who knows how far you can still go.

This is the game plan for now. I've just recently hit a lot of sticking points in my lifting
i SAY GO FOR IT BALLS TO THE WALL .LOL

haha I really want to man

ever wonder why a younger kid the same size as an older dude can life twice as more???

5'6

You guys are probably wise in saying I should wait. But to bump my last question, how does 23 sound? And again Thanks everyone
 
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little young bro. wait until you feel your sex drive get cut in half or more. have you started to notice that at all? i was around 23-24.
 
You look great but if you want to grow you need to eat more. What's your intake like?

the after pic I posted was coming off a cut. So I'm currently slowly increasing my calories so my metabolism can recover- probably gonna bulk with around 3500 kcals. Or whatever I find helps me put on weight without the fat.
 
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