3rd cycle pros/cons advice anyone??

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I am 5'7 170lbs about to start my third cycle, I was told to do 600mg Test E 300mg Tren 300mg masteron 40mg Turinabol daily ( 2 tabs) For 10 weeks. Pros/cons advice needed. Thanks!
 
Thats a lot of gear, and wasted cash imo. I would drop the mast and tbol if I was you, tren and test is a strong combo
 
Thats a lot of gear, and wasted cash imo. I would drop the mast and tbol if I was you, tren and test is a strong combo

Thanks for the reply, fairly new to this. I had really good gains in my first cycle of just test and deca. What do you think of adding deca to the test and tren?

My last cycle was test, tren, mast and anovar, my gains weren't that great.
 
You aren't ready for tren. Wait until cycle number 5. Trust me. Honestly you shouldn't run anything, but most definitely not tren. You're a little small to be running gear. If you are dead set on cycling then run the mast, test, and tbol. Whoever told you to run that cycle doesn't know Wtf they are talking about. Please don't get offended by this. You only get one body. You only get one life. These hormones are very strong. They can induce health problems that will effect you for the rest of your life. Be smart about this. Please?
 
Crazy stacks with lots of drugs arent really worth it atm for you, a spot-on diet with good, hard training and a good pct would give you good gains on a simple cycle (not saying tren is simple)
 
What's your diet and training like?
At 5'7 you should be over 170lbs, even if you have a a true body fat of 10%

I train 6 days a week and eat high protein mostly clean. I was only 125lbs at the beginning of my first cycle, it has always been very hard for me to gain even fat never mind muscle.
 
I train 6 days a week and eat high protein mostly clean. I was only 125lbs at the beginning of my first cycle, it has always been very hard for me to gain even fat never mind muscle.

Curious as to your stats bro. Age, years training, diet macros and anything else that you think would be helpful.

There is no such thing as a true hard gainer unless you have a thyroid disorder maybe. Consider me, I started working out at 20 when I was 145-150 lbs at 6' tall. It's taken me 11 years to to get to 190lbs naturally. This I did with low testosterone (low 200's) so if that can be done, you can gain weight. The way you'll know if you're eating enough is by if you're gaining weight.

Also, if you can't gain without gear, you will not be able to maintain mass after you cycle off of it. Diet is the biggest factor here.

Welcome!
 
Curious as to your stats bro. Age, years training, diet macros and anything else that you think would be helpful.

There is no such thing as a true hard gainer unless you have a thyroid disorder maybe. Consider me, I started working out at 20 when I was 145-150 lbs at 6' tall. It's taken me 11 years to to get to 190lbs naturally. This I did with low testosterone (low 200's) so if that can be done, you can gain weight. The way you'll know if you're eating enough is by if you're gaining weight.

Also, if you can't gain without gear, you will not be able to maintain mass after you cycle off of it. Diet is the biggest factor here.

Welcome!


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Curious as to your stats bro. Age, years training, diet macros and anything else that you think would be helpful.

There is no such thing as a true hard gainer unless you have a thyroid disorder maybe. Consider me, I started working out at 20 when I was 145-150 lbs at 6' tall. It's taken me 11 years to to get to 190lbs naturally. This I did with low testosterone (low 200's) so if that can be done, you can gain weight. The way you'll know if you're eating enough is by if you're gaining weight.

Also, if you can't gain without gear, you will not be able to maintain mass after you cycle off of it. Diet is the biggest factor here.

Welcome!

Again....this!
 
I am 39, been training 6 days a week for a year now, before that I trained off and on for years with no big gains.

I only lost about 5lbs after my first two cycles. I try to eat six meals a day high in protein.
 
I am 39, been training 6 days a week for a year now, before that I trained off and on for years with no big gains.

I only lost about 5lbs after my first two cycles. I try to eat six meals a day high in protein.

soooo you started taking gear way before you ever had any sort of foundation my 5'2 girlfriend ways more then you did.... theres no reason to even be taking gear at the stats you are at now...

obviously something is lacking...

please lay out your diet for us .. when you say high protien mostly clean that usually means you aren't eating enough and it's a bunch of shitty food.... and remember being honest is the only way we can help you reach your goals...

also test/tren/mast for someone that has only been training for a year consitently and off and on without any gains = DRUGS ARENT THE ANSWER AND IT'S EITHER DIET OR TRAINING THATS HOLDING YOU BACK

all your asking for is more side effects... remember the drugs arent gonna do shit if you dont train/eat/sleep right
 
soooo you started taking gear way before you ever had any sort of foundation my 5'2 girlfriend ways more then you did.... Theres no reason to even be taking gear at the stats you are at now...

Obviously something is lacking...

Please lay out your diet for us .. When you say high protien mostly clean that usually means you aren't eating enough and it's a bunch of shitty food.... And remember being honest is the only way we can help you reach your goals...

Also test/tren/mast for someone that has only been training for a year consitently and off and on without any gains = drugs arent the answer and it's either diet or training thats holding you back

all your asking for is more side effects... Remember the drugs arent gonna do shit if you dont train/eat/sleep right

all of this ......!
 
If u already cycled this stack before with little gains then what are u really expected to hear right now???
 
soooo you started taking gear way before you ever had any sort of foundation my 5'2 girlfriend ways more then you did.... theres no reason to even be taking gear at the stats you are at now...

obviously something is lacking...

please lay out your diet for us .. when you say high protien mostly clean that usually means you aren't eating enough and it's a bunch of shitty food.... and remember being honest is the only way we can help you reach your goals...

also test/tren/mast for someone that has only been training for a year consitently and off and on without any gains = DRUGS ARENT THE ANSWER AND IT'S EITHER DIET OR TRAINING THATS HOLDING YOU BACK

all your asking for is more side effects... remember the drugs arent gonna do shit if you dont train/eat/sleep right

X's 3!!!!
If you're hardheaded and gonna run gear anyways do NOT run tren. Plenty of good advice given... My first opinion though.... Go to diet forum, hire 3J... No offense but I was 170 at 16... 3j will help you gain naturally then consider coming back to AAS..
 
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You started cycling at 125 pounds? Jesus fucking Christ. You are the reason aas gets a bad name. You are the reason that everyone thinks our culture is lazy and gear is the only reason we get more muscular. You are not someone I want to associate with. Thanks for doing exactly the opposite of what these forums are here to prevent...and then coming into a forum and saying you did it AND think it's fine so now some eager teenager WILL think it's okay because you did it and thus the cycle of idiocy making us all look lazy is perpetuated.
 
You started cycling at 125 pounds? Jesus fucking Christ. You are the reason aas gets a bad name. You are the reason that everyone thinks our culture is lazy and gear is the only reason we get more muscular. You are not someone I want to associate with. Thanks for doing exactly the opposite of what these forums are here to prevent...and then coming into a forum and saying you did it AND think it's fine so now some eager teenager WILL think it's okay because you did it and thus the cycle of idiocy making us all look lazy is perpetuated.

wow not only is that deep, but i feel the raw emotion behind it lol! you deserver an oscar or w.e they give it..

in our case it would be a big gold vial with a rig stickin out the top lol
 
I would live an award like that, but then I would have to say, "I don't do this for awards, or to be recognized. I do it for the people and for Allah." Lol.

Now, if it were an actual vial full of gear then I would be doing it for that award!

Seriously though, this is why aas is illegal because of people like this.

Shit like this really gets to me, as you saw. Lol
 
I would live an award like that, but then I would have to say, "I don't do this for awards, or to be recognized. I do it for the people and for Allah." Lol.

LOL

Now, if it were an actual vial full of gear then I would be doing it for that award!

Wouldnt we all brother

Seriously though, this is why aas is illegal because of people like this.

thats the truth and it fucking sucks... stupid kids are horribly depressed and all fucked in the head and decide to take AAS and then when they off themselves the parents blame steroids because their doctor told the kid to get off cold turkey with no PCT

Shit like this really gets to me, as you saw. Lol

in bold
 
I didn't come here to get put down and ripped apart. I came for advice, sorry that my genetics are made up with a really high metabolism. Every man in my family has never been bigger than 140 no matter what they ate. Hell my grandfather sits in his chair drinking beer, eating pizza, French fries and spaghetti everyday and only weighs 120.

Anyways I asked for advice what to do for my 3rd cycle, should I add something? Omit something??

My diet is good, I eat 4 eggs and spinach for breakfast, then 4 meals throughout the day each consisting of a breast chicken/turkey, a veg and usually red beans, some times a sweet potato. I have 4 eggs before bed also.
I train every night for 2-3 hours.
 
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