4 weeks on 2 weeks off advice

Can any knowledgable folks comment about Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) suppressing thyroid? I've never heard of this before.
 
mranak said:
Can any knowledgable folks comment about Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) suppressing thyroid? I've never heard of this before.
This study says it doesn't. Click here.
Scroll down to the bottom if it is to much to read. Start after the Red hyperlink. ;)
 
WALLY said:
fantom yes i had my bloodwork done before,during,after a cycle and my thyroid was shut down. my t4 levels were extremely low but my t3 levels were high.
i was thinking weeks 1-4 prop 525mg weeks 1-4 400mg tren weeks 1-4 100mg a day drol nolva at 20mg a day test always makes me get gyno. then for the 2 weeks off clomid 6,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 then start the same cycle again


Ive had similar problems like you regarding thyroid function. I was informed by my doctor that it is the nolva that is shutting the thyroid down. I was prescribed synthroid to alleviate the problem and have since had no problems with my thyroid shutting down/
 
Tough Old Man said:
This is exactly how Dante of Dogg Crapp Training advises his trainees to do it. For myself I'm on a year long cycle but going 6 weeks on and 3 weeks off and repeating.
Tough

Actually I dont advise any of my trainees to do anything (and this is the 3rd board Ive seen you say something akin to this tough old man and i would appreciate it if you wouldnt)-- if someone asks my opinion on something such as what their freind who lives in Mexico should do (where its legal to do so)-Ill give my opinion and thats all it is--an opinion
 
This is from a Dr. friend of mine on another board. When you think short cycles done this way you almost take gear half the time. Just a thought to keep the board rolling. Guys like me that get massive shutdown gives me hope and the end of the tunnel.
25 x 17 cycle info
Now I am not putting the following information in my books and actually decided to yank all of the drug advice from my paid stuff on advice from a legal friend. Still I'll give you what we were testing out and the results were nothing short of awesome. Gains about 1 to 2 lbs a week, every week. and no loss post cycle, no shutdown of natural hormones and best of all, no nasty estrogen sides. Almost 30 people have used this to date and sent me results with everyones results being 95% identical. STILL
its only in theory and not advice of any kind ok????

Here is a section of my book, alchemy, that we pulled for legal reasons, but we can post it here for fun and entertainment lol.
Cheers

This is simply a theory for educational purposes, that we have come up with and should not be considered advice of any kind. We do not endorse the buying or selling of illegal substances. Anabolic steroids/Prescription Drugs are not to be used without a doctor’s supervision and guidance. An overwhelming amount of the younger population and even an amazing amount of the older are using Anabolic steroids and prescription drugs as recreational or performance enhancing drugs.
NOTE: Anabolic Steroids/Drugs of any kind can be dangerous to a persons health and if an individual must take these drugs, please make sure they research and have the proper medical supervision.
Note: If you are a competitive athlete using these compounds you will fail your drug test.

In theory only…
This tier (#4) should not be used unless you are following all of the above alchemy (supplementation) tiers as well as the complete Diatia (eating), the Oppurtunitas (training) and the Victus (lifestyle) regimens.

Active Cycle end (day 25) would be on the last peaking day of the training (Oppurtunitas) cycle (these are 6 week cycles).
Dosages would be an individual thing and that means they would always want to start with lowest dosage.

AAS
(orals taken 3 times a day during meals 1, 3, 5)
(injectables/transdermals should be taken morning)
(taken 25 days on 17 off then 25 days on 24 days off)
Methandrostenolone (Dianabol), (10 mg to 50 mg ED)
Oxymetholone (Anadrol), (25 mg to 50 mg ED)
Testosterone Prop, (25 mg to 50 mg EOD)
Trenbolone Acetate (Fina) (50 mg to 75 mg EOD)

Fat burning/metabolism substances
liothyronine sodium (Cytomel) T3 (10 to 12 mcg per day total),
(taken 11 days on 10 days off)
(should be taken in 3 dosages 8 hours apart on an empty stomach)
Clenbuterol Hydrochloride (Spiropent) (5 mcg to 50 mcg ED)
(taken 11 days on 10 days off tapering dosage up to day 6 and back down)
(should be taken during meals 1 & 3)

Post Cycle Recovery and anti-gynecomastia + over estrogen Prevention
(taken 32 days on and 10 days off then 32 days on 17 days off)
(should be divide into 3 dosages and taken during meals 2,4 & 6)
Tamoxifen Citrate (Nolvadex) 5mg ED (or more as needed)
Clomiphene Citrate (Clomid) 10mg ED
4-hydroxyandrostenedione (Formestane Powder) (50mg ED)
Letrozole (Femara) (.125mg ED)

Also the other supps I still discuss in my alchemy that are from tier 3:
Ecdysten - Leuzea (Rhaponticum carthamoides) (Thermo-Life)Mumie (Altay)
Siberian ginseng (Eleutherococcus senticosus) (Natures Way)
Tribestan (Sopharma)


thoughts? Questions? As I look at this I wonder if anyone can even follow my code? LOL
again its a theory only!

:) :) :)
 
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