40+ looking to make some nice lean gains, nothing too nasty!

[banafly]

Hi guys, my first post here...

I am 40 now but in my early to mid 20's did plenty of gear, Sustanon 250 was my favorite along with Deca, Dianabol injectable (best gains for me ever) and quit when I got married (big mistake!)

Anyhow since then I have still been faithful to the gym and work out 2-3 times a week but no gear, just lately I am really wanting to hit some gear to motivate me more thru the winter months, although I am concerned about a few side effects I have had before being...

- Libido dropping after for a long time and to be honest its nothing like it was in 20's but could be age anyhow?

- Bitch tits, I never got this but did get the nipple lump behind which has almost gone nowadays.

- Winstrol tabs - this caused serious joint dryness which ended up with months of back issues, but all ok now!

So with these three issues in mind, I don't wanna go back to Sus 250 etc and the others and end up with bitch tits and libido gone totally and no joints!

Having read and read and read I am thinking Anavar maybe a good one? and many seem to say Testosterone I am not sure what brand or shape the Testosterone comes in as wasn't really used when I was younger, I have also considered HGH but think I will leave that til i'm in my 60's.

I just wanna put on even 7lb of good muscle, I look pretty buff anyways but just an extra few pounds of quality muscle would really make a difference.

Many Thanks in advance for any input.

 

[MeatHead96]

Welcome to the forums. Stay around and read the stickies and do some research. A basic testosterone enthanate or cypionate cycle with 5-600mg a week for about 12wks would probably be good for you. At your age I would get all my levels checked first to make sure your not a candidate for TRT.

 

[banafly]

Welcome to the forums. Stay around and read the stickies and do some research. A basic testosterone enthanate or cypionate cycle with 5-600mg a week for about 12wks would probably be good for you. At your age I would get all my levels checked first to make sure your not a candidate for TRT.

Thanks I am in UK so not sure what testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) testing etc is here, but agree I think would be a good idea, which levels are tested and how?

 

[Epic Ed]

You may already have low testosterone at your age and with your history. The first thing I'd do is get some blood work done to find out a baseline of your test and estrogen levels, along with all the other stuff that helps give you an overall picture of your current state of health. Once you have that info then start making plans for your next steps. You may find your current testosterone production levels are low enough that your doc puts you on hormone replacement therapy (HRT). If so, that can be a good thing and an easy transition into planning a cycle.

The good news for you is all of the problems you are worried about that you and others experienced decades ago are largely able to be mitigated these days by using the proper ancillary meds to prevent or drastically reduced unwanted side effects. So much more is known today about running a proper AAS cycle than it was back in the 80s. Get some blood work done and then start asking specific questions related to your goals and eventually you'll put together the right info for a solid cycle. You're going to find out that almost no one advocates running any cycle without using test as a base these days. You'll also find out that it's hard to beat the simple, tried-and-true combo of test and deca.

 

[banafly]

You may already have low testosterone at your age and with your history. The first thing I'd do is get some blood work done to find out a baseline of your test and estrogen levels, along with all the other stuff that helps give you an overall picture of your current state of health. Once you have that info then start making plans for your next steps. You may find your current testosterone production levels are low enough that your doc puts you on hormone replacement therapy (HRT). If so, that can be a good thing and an easy transition into planning a cycle.

The good news for you is all of the problems you are worried about that you and others experienced decades ago are largely able to be mitigated these days by using the proper ancillary meds to prevent or drastically reduced unwanted side effects. So much more is known today about running a proper AAS cycle than it was back in the 80s. Get some blood work done and then start asking specific questions related to your goals and eventually you'll put together the right info for a solid cycle. You're going to find out that almost no one advocates running any cycle without using test as a base these days. You'll also find out that it's hard to beat the simple, tried-and-true combo of test and deca.

Cool thanks, I will get some testing sorted, but think I will hit a short course in meantime,... when people say Testostorone, what form is this in? I see people mention testosterone enthanate but what is this? a injectable, a brand or what brand does it come in and what would you take?

I have been speaking to others at the gym and they saying 50mg of Anavar and some Mastanan is a good mix? As I said I know what gains I want, literally a few pounds of quality lean muscle without getting a gut. I am pretty in shape still, 31" waist at 40 ain't bad.

 

[bignewf]

enthanate is the ester attached. it determines how long it will take the test to get into your system after injection and determines how long it will stay there (ie half life)

you said you ran sust 250 back in the day. this is a test blend at 250mg/ml. I cant really see it changing from then to now. sust is usually a quick acting blend, although I have seen some contain enthanate .

and yes test enthanate is injectable, as is most every other test, unless u find an oral, fairly rare

not sure what mastanan is I think they mean masteron, I would avoid that for now being so long since you've done a cycle as for anavar I think this is mostly used for cutting, I don't have much experience with it

for a cycle I would got 500mg/wk (2 shots of 250mg one Monday one Friday) of test enthanate or cypionate (almost identical to enthanate

you could use oral dbol for 4 weeks as a kicker seeing it usualy take enthanate or cyp around that to kick in due to the longer ester

use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), I like aromasin, for the duration of the cycle up until the day before your post cycle therapy (pct). id go at 6.25mg ed for 2 weeks then up it to 12.5mg ed until the day before pct

pct will start around 15-20 days after your last shot of test
clomid at 50/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/40/20/20

also some people opt for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), I never so I don't have much experience with it, a more vertern member may be able to help you with this

 

[bignewf]

so that would be:
12 weeks of test
4 weeks of dbol (first 4)
approx. 16.5 weeks of aromasin
4 weeks nolva and clomid