A Good Alternative to Pinning?

WorkingOT

WorkingOT

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Hey guys, been on here for a long time, pondering a must-needed cycle (Came on and I was banned for no reason whatsoever with no ban lift ever happening?!?, I know you guys have given me the best advice in the past), where I work, bringing vials into work means instant termination so I can't run my T300/Deca/Sdrol cycle I got sitting at home, was just wondering if there is any cycle I could run that doesn't involve pinning with mild to moderate gains. Was even thinking of running AML's Oral Test P while I run clen in the mean time until my work is done, I can't really think of anything that doesn't involve an injection working, but even with 3J I couldn't put the weight on (his diet is built for clean bulking), I had to disgracefully quit the diet due to financial distress ($200/week for food), and lack of access to the gym.
 
I'm not sure why you think you need $200 of food a week to gain weight. I'm not sure why you'd consider AAS if you can't be consistent with eating and lifting.
 
J-Radical said:
If you cant diet properly there is zero reason to do any cycle... plain and simple
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I learnt this the hard way on my Test E cycle (I put on 20lbs of mass on the 3/4 mark, diet fell apart, then lost it all, but a few pounds). With 3J it was just mean cuts but no size because I wasn't hitting the weights everyday like I should have been, I had to choose between getting my workout or getting enough sleep every night, hitting the gym with only 4h of sleep every night is not even worth the effort, I can only workout in the evening, and circuit training for me requires a certain amount of space and equipment, and I can't get that space and access to all the equipment I need during normal hours when I'm at work for 3 weeks a month.

That was before though, my work now isn't as labor intensive, I make double the amount of $$$ I did before, I found a gym by my place at home where I can powerlift (with no one in my way), and when I get off work I'm not nearly as tired as I used to be (even getting the same 6h every night). The diet wasn't the hard part, it was spending $1000/month on food/supplements that I needed to break the threshold. When you make $3000 a month, have $1800 in bills, and spend $1000 of that on food/supplements its really not that easy to live a normal life, just trying to make ends meet, working 12h a day/everyday, 1h in the gym, and still make time for your wife is not easy, especially when your wife isn't as supportive as well.
 
I am guessing you are working camp work, are you doing 2on 2off or are you a 20day 10 day split. There are ways to work around it to maximize it I "know" people running successful cycles and doing camp work.
 
illumin4tion said:
Oral test p isn't nearly as potent as the real deal. Dosages will be needed to run at almost double is what I hear.
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I agree at minimum doubled, I believe when it was put out there is was mainly for use in women but I could be wrong. I do know I have tried andriol, oral test and its no where near the same.
 
Kazmir said:
I am guessing you are working camp work, are you doing 2on 2off or are you a 20day 10 day split. There are ways to work around it to maximize it I "know" people running successful cycles and doing camp work.
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2 on, 1 off, but I managed to sneak in the last 2 weeks of my Test E cycle on my first day, (someone on the same crew that got hired on that day got busted with gear, somehow I got off lucky, its like complete lockdown here, X-Ray scanners, drug dogs) not really worth losing my job over, only problem is that I could be here for one more week or one more year, there's no way of knowing when a lay off is coming. Can even get human grade A Bombs, but I remember orals being less than fantastic, I was just hoping for a 10 weeks on/10 weeks off cycle since I can get them into work easy, then whenever I get laid off I can look forward to my 20 week T-300 cycle (just love the way test feels)
 
WorkingOT said:
Hey guys, been on here for a long time, pondering a must-needed cycle (Came on and I was banned for no reason whatsoever with no ban lift ever happening?!?, I know you guys have given me the best advice in the past), where I work, bringing vials into work means instant termination so I can't run my T300/Deca/Sdrol cycle I got sitting at home, was just wondering if there is any cycle I could run that doesn't involve pinning with mild to moderate gains. Was even thinking of running AML's Oral Test P while I run clen in the mean time until my work is done, I can't really think of anything that doesn't involve an injection working, but even with 3J I couldn't put the weight on (his diet is built for clean bulking), I had to disgracefully quit the diet due to financial distress ($200/week for food), and lack of access to the gym.
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$200.00 a week for grocery lmao, damn bro no wonder why u droped the bulk, even when I am bulking I am spending under $ 70.00 for food/week on a 3700 cal plan, u got to learn how to budget the money and maybe not be so pickie on certain foods bro
 
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Proviron will help even if you use it by itself. It will help free up testosterone and help you feel better. You can notice some hardness but you won't notice much of an increase in weight. You might hold your weight a little different and about 5lbs heavier or so. Its better than nothing. You can bring PCT products along for when you want to come off to restart your testosterone. Thats the easiest thing I can think of for you.
 
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