A little nervous about starting trt looking for encouragement/ advice

Flrock

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Hello gentlemen

Right to it. I'm 33 and was forced to seek a doctor outside of the VA as all they wanted to do was prescribe antidepressants and put me in therapy. I thought maybe I had adrenal fatigue based on the symptoms and this prompted me to see a D.O. here in Tampa bay. We ran some blood work as follows:
Tt- 277 ng/do
FT- 26.7 pg/ml

TSH- .61 uIU/ML
FT4- 1.02 ng/dl
FT3- 329 pg/dl
Total T3- 72 ng/dl (this is currently being retested, waiting on results)

FSH- 3.78 mIU/ml
LH- 3.46 mIU/ml

eGFR- 91

I'm currently waiting on the results of a 4 vial saliva test. No test for DHEA, Estradiol, SHGB, or PSA been ordered. The D.O. wants me to do 210mg Test cypionate in 1cc IM weekly. On top of this my calcium is 10.4 so we're checking my PTH as well to see if I possibly have hyperparathyroid. What else should I be looking at? The VA is useless other than pulling the labs that outside doc has requested. They seem to think antidepressants will make me all of a sudden preform better on the pitch, bring back my libido, give me back the 20 pounds ive lost these last 4 months. I need the positive vibes but real talk. Also, diet doesn't have any wheat now, been eating extremely clean, lots of veggies, beans, nuts, good mix of meat proteins, dropped dairy to one serving a day. I take a Centrum one-a-day and fish oil, and CBD hemp oil for inflammation and anxiety. Any help would be great, thanks.
 
I straight up used the VA for my labs. My testoserone dropped 28% in 24 months and I have yet to have an endo give me any reason beyond my reasons . . . Anyway . .

I say 2 smaller injections of 100mg every 3.5 days. Lower doses more often leads to more stable levels. Also sub-q. Just under your skin. IM is just a deeper puncture wound. If I ever ran a cycle and had to do a decent sized shot I would do I'M. I've done my test in my stomach at .5ml/cc.

hCG for your balls health and many of us report a better mind frame/sense of well being.

You have to know your estrogen and take an aromatase inhibitor.

Read the TRT overview my Megatron!!!!!
 
Treatment changes from water and ibuprofen in the service to Zoloft at the VA. I have gyno, limp dick andbmy testoserone has obviously dropped and "you might be depressed" is mentioned every time haha
 
antidepressants should never be used in my opinion in your case. they are just putting a bandaid on your problem and probably going to cause more damage to your own physiological condition and you will end up even worst. all those types of docs who just recommended pills to treat a problem should also be put on the big boat in the middle of the ocean and sunk along with all the lawyers on earth.
What is the first oath Doctors take when they are ready to do medicine? DO NO HARM!!!!!! In a perfect world there are no doctors, only nutritionist.
 
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antidepressants should never be used in my opinion in your case. they are just putting a bandaid on your problem and probably going to cause more damage to your own physiological condition and you will end up even worst. all those types of docs who just recommended pills to treat a problem should also be put on the big boat in the middle of the ocean and sunk along with all the lawyers on earth.
What is the first oath Doctors take when they are ready to do medicine? DO NO HARM!!!!!! In a perfect world there are no doctors, only nutritionist.

The reason why labcorp lowered the ranges in my opinion was so if a guy goes to see his doctor presenting ED and libido issues and he comes in at just under the older range of 348, hey you're normal, here's some antidepressants and Viagra for the erection troubles instead of offering testosterone when the cause is low testosterone. Now he's opening himself up to the diseases associated with T levels below 400ng/dL, that's got to be malpractice because now you're doing harm for the sake of profit!

It's a disgusting world we live in!! We can't have everyone health now can we?!
 
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There is nothing to it really. Nothing wrong with a 6 month trial of TRT. Thats one of the biggest misconceptions about TRT, thats it is permanently suppressive.

Its not, at all permanently suppressive. So you could def do a 3-6 month trial run and if it wasn't for you, do a restart and try something else.

Hope this helps.
 
As voiced above, I would avoid taking any antidepressants. Give TRT a shot and see how it works. Read the TRT sticky and overview. You won't feel different in day or two as it takes a while for the saturation process to take place. You should feel better after a month or so and once you get "dialed in", you will probably feel great!

I would suggest running complete labs to figure out why your testosterone is low. I'm a big advocate of TRT, however, if you can do a restart and it's appropriate, it is better off doing this than having to pin yourself for the rest of your life.

As far as the VA goes, you need to advocate for yourself. Be firm and that you don't want to take antidepressants. That's everyone's bullshit answer these days. There are guys who get TRT through the VA and if you advocate, you can be one who does it also.

PS: Thank you for your service!
 
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For sure fight the VA. I'm not sure of your experiences but every time I talk with a doctor they leave, them come back. Sometimes completely different. Like my last endo appt. Test gel before he left. Came back with "normal ranges" and no treatment.

I've said several times "I want to talk to the person behind the curtain because they are obviously the one making the decision." Almost 10 years and I've still never met them.
 
Thanks for the info gents. I won't be touching any anti-depressants as they have never been a thing of benefit for me. I was on Tramadol a couple of years ago I put in an order for SHBG to be pulled, and while there found out that my test for Estradiol, PSA, DHEA-S, and others were actually put in and completed.
Estradiol- Ultra sensitive 16 pg/ml (ref just says < or = 29)
PSA- 1.87 ng/ml
DHEA S 357 mcg/dl

I started my first dose yesterday and cut my dose down from 210mg a week to 147mg/week. After doing ridiculous amounts of reading I figured I have nothing but time with this so I'm thinking it will be easier to adjust up or down with a lower amount than 210mg weekly. I picked up 27ga 1/2" and am doing the bi-weekly doses.

As for wondering why my T is low, the only thing I know that may have correlation is a couple of TBI's I've had over the years. The most recent and worst of the 3 was in 2006 when I got blown into a Hummvee roof from and IED. I was able to find my T lab results from the last check they did related to my TBI.

This was from 2013 and I was 29 at the time.
FT 87.5 pg/ml
TT 461 ng/dl

Other than the TBI I have no idea why my T would be so damn low.

What do you guys think of holding off on trying HCG until my next labs? I'm done having kids and don't really care about the size of my nuts atm, and if you couldn't tell I'm not into moving real quick with treatments.
 
I have a service connected for epilepsy based on ones being recorded on an EEG and the VA neurology department refused me service. Once saying Ibwas delusional in my records. I seen this waiting in urology over limp dick, bitch tits and "depression". It's in "US Medicine and is basically all VA. Stuffed this in my endocrinologist face to no effect.

US Medicine Volume 52, Number 7, July 2016 pg 4

I say go hCG. Your balls working is good just incase treatment stops for some reason.
 
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Thanks for the info gents. I won't be touching any anti-depressants as they have never been a thing of benefit for me. I was on Tramadol a couple of years ago I put in an order for SHBG to be pulled, and while there found out that my test for Estradiol, PSA, DHEA-S, and others were actually put in and completed.
Estradiol- Ultra sensitive 16 pg/ml (ref just says < or = 29)
PSA- 1.87 ng/ml
DHEA S 357 mcg/dl

I started my first dose yesterday and cut my dose down from 210mg a week to 147mg/week. After doing ridiculous amounts of reading I figured I have nothing but time with this so I'm thinking it will be easier to adjust up or down with a lower amount than 210mg weekly. I picked up 27ga 1/2" and am doing the bi-weekly doses.

As for wondering why my T is low, the only thing I know that may have correlation is a couple of TBI's I've had over the years. The most recent and worst of the 3 was in 2006 when I got blown into a Hummvee roof from and IED. I was able to find my T lab results from the last check they did related to my TBI.

This was from 2013 and I was 29 at the time.
FT 87.5 pg/ml
TT 461 ng/dl

Other than the TBI I have no idea why my T would be so damn low.

What do you guys think of holding off on trying HCG until my next labs? I'm done having kids and don't really care about the size of my nuts atm, and if you couldn't tell I'm not into moving real quick with treatments.
stick with your hcg, its aiding more than just your nut size and sperm production, its about your quality of life. when are you getting bloodworks done?
 
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