advice for a rookie please

Phatbastard said:
This is exactly why one should start with test only.

It has more to do with learning your body on compounds. Rather than compounds them selves.

Once you learn these things and venture into say Tren as an example. You will understand what is causing what sides and where to make adjustments.

Truth be know Test is used when running Tren as much to maintain normal functions as it is to off set sides from Tren!
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Phattie B dropping the knowledge!! Thanks for the post, I just learned something!
 
I like Spongy's Maturity and Dedication analogy also! Because steroids are really a very small part of the puzzle. Unless one is willing to commit to the entire life style I think its wisest to just leave it alone. Not dive head first in to the most dangerous piece of the pie.
 
callitwutuwant said:
is nov 2011 ur 1st cycle of nethang ever spongy?
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I did some prohormones before that, but no AAS. I wouldn't even call what I'm doing a Cycle though. It's doctor prescribed testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) under a doctor's supervision just to keep my testosterone at normal, healthy levels.

I had good results with the prohormones, but actually feel that I jumped into them too fast. It's a miracle I didn't mess myself up worse than just having some low Test issues.
 
darkside06 said:
my first cycle i did test only....but i had no idea what i was doing. Got a vial of cyp from a dude at my gym and he told me to shoot 1ml twice a week. only lasted me about 5 weeks and then it was gone.....no post cycle therapy (pct) or nothing. it's amazing i didn't fuck things up.

2nd cycle was test only again, but did shit right. Test cyp for 14weeks with a good post cycle therapy (pct) and i had great results.

I didn't fuck with tren until my 4th cycle and even then i did a mild dose and felt it kick my ass.

Trust me, test for your first run and do it right with a good post cycle therapy (pct). also make sure your diet is on point or your just wasting money.
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when u say a mild dose what do u mean? and no thats not all i got out of wut u said...
 
honestly im prob gonna take ur advice and start with just test... but i do want to hear from sum1 who has done it like darkside as in how exactly tren kicked ur ass? cuz prob in a year ima try it
 
i didnt have the normal sides, sweats crazy dreams.. but i had physcological problems after i was paranoid as shit, and i only ran it 6 weeks and it took a toll on my body. my body looked great i was strong and big but it felt like i was on a bender for the last couple weeks.
 
Ok so this post holds a little water. ;)

If you're looking for rapid weight gain you can go the legal but harsher on your body route and take m-drol(it's kinda sorta legal, but still a prohormone and legit) or you can take dbol, either one will put tons of weight on you fast.

After 2 cycles and massive eating frenzy/ training routines I personally gained 60 lbs doing 6 weeks cycles of m-drol and epistane. (I know their ph's but it's all I could get at the time for good reason.) That however was coupled with eating til I either felt like or actually did vomit and lifting until I started seeing spots. Try weight gainer 2200, GNC used to sell it but idk if it's still on the market. It's 2200 calories and tastes like drinking sand paper ground up in oatmeal but if you've got dedication you can handle it. If 2200 and dbol don't put weight on you then nothing will.

First thing's first though, get with some of these older fellas who've had a lot of experience and see if they;ll guide you to correct post cycle therapy (pct) and cycle therapy to protect yourself. I'm that idiot who was young, dumb and full of cum. I had to learn trial by error style cause I thought I knew everything, don't make that mistake.

Any questions, we're here to help.
 
dadawg said:
20 mg of tren is as ueseless as tits on a boar hog.

Slow down , you say your 29 but you act more like a teen with that im gonnna do it anyway attitude.

1st cycle = test eth or cyp at 400-600 mg a week for 10-12 weeks . Start post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after the last injection and use 50 mg of clomid a day for 3-4 weeks.

Lastly , every thiing i just said was a waste of my time bacause a cycle wont help. You dont eat enough. Before you whine about your fast metabolism , dont bother because you do not eat enough.steroids without food will not help you . Even if you eat more while on the cycle and gain weight you will lose those gains if you dont continue to eat like that from now on.
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tits on a boar hog,,,hahahahahahahah
 
kyanthony said:
Ok so this post holds a little water. ;)

If you're looking for rapid weight gain you can go the legal but harsher on your body route and take m-drol(it's kinda sorta legal, but still a prohormone and legit) or you can take dbol, either one will put tons of weight on you fast.

After 2 cycles and massive eating frenzy/ training routines I personally gained 60 lbs doing 6 weeks cycles of m-drol and epistane. (I know their ph's but it's all I could get at the time for good reason.) That however was coupled with eating til I either felt like or actually did vomit and lifting until I started seeing spots. Try weight gainer 2200, GNC used to sell it but idk if it's still on the market. It's 2200 calories and tastes like drinking sand paper ground up in oatmeal but if you've got dedication you can handle it. If 2200 and dbol don't put weight on you then nothing will.

First thing's first though, get with some of these older fellas who've had a lot of experience and see if they;ll guide you to correct post cycle therapy (pct) and cycle therapy to protect yourself. I'm that idiot who was young, dumb and full of cum. I had to learn trial by error style cause I thought I knew everything, don't make that mistake.

Any questions, we're here to help.
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finally sum1 who understands my question.. lol. even thought everybody elses info wus very helpful also, and i did learn from it. buuuuut post cycle therapy (pct) is one of my major concerns. i still want to be nrmal after gettin swoll. its not worth being fukd up for life. so if nebody can tell me the perfect post cycle therapy (pct) i wud be very thankful... or is it a diff post cycle therapy (pct) for each diff cycle?
 
callitwutuwant said:
finally sum1 who understands my question.. lol. even thought everybody elses info wus very helpful also, and i did learn from it. buuuuut post cycle therapy (pct) is one of my major concerns. i still want to be nrmal after gettin swoll. its not worth being fukd up for life. so if nebody can tell me the perfect post cycle therapy (pct) i wud be very thankful... or is it a diff post cycle therapy (pct) for each diff cycle?
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It can vary from cycle to cycle. What are you really thinking of running? If it's test only then Clomid should be good for you.
 
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