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[newguy1234]

hi guys , hope yous are all bashing those weights good and proper .. anyways i put a post on not long ago about what i should be taking for my first cycle ever . but the advice i got was to change my dieting . i took the guys advice because he was right my diet would have been in no shape for a proper workout or any real gains when i start them .. well i have changed it and its going well iam enjoying it to be honest dont know why i dont it ages ago .. big portions lots of tuna , chiken , steak ect ect no point going into it all but im on the right track atleast i think i am .... going to sound like a stupid question right but i got gas coming out of my back end like u wouldnt beleive lol is this a sign i am eating alot of protien?? also scince i only really started this proper diet for a week or 2 should i wait a few month before i start my first cycle ?

thanks guys much apreciated

 

[newguy1234]

infact never mind guys .. im just thinking ahead to much i know i aint ready for them im just dying to see some good solid gains .. im just going to stick to the dieting and bash the weights .. theres tones of diffrent factors wich i havent thought off like post cycle therapy (pct) , dropping fat levels before cycles ect ect im just gonna stick around for a while and continue doing my research suppose i have al the time in the world to get gains , im 23 5ft"11 and 182 lbs at the moment and thats just from the way i eat ect ..

 

[crazyfmike]

Too much protein is going cause this to happen. Back down now and then slowly increase your intake of proteins.

IMO 30 grams of protein as about all the body can handle at one time, the rest is just stressing out your system, going bad and creating this gas problem.

 

[A.B]

using whey protein kills my stomach and makes me one gassy mofo.

i stick with isolate and no problem

 

[TraPump]

What mike said and hopefully you're getting plenty of fibrous carbs with that protein which will also cause this but help you keep regular.

a couple other tips on nutrition before cycling that are always a good rule of thumb:

1. Calculate Calorie & Macro nutrient needs (and learn your body's requirements) LONG before using AAS.

2. Use that nutrition knowledge above to get you closer to your maximum genetic potential at a bf% no higher then 12 MAYBE 13% before using AAS.

3. READ everything and anything you can find about any compound you're going to shove into your muscle and inject.

Good luck friend hope this helped.

 

[TraPump]

^^Ok #3 isn't really a tip on nutrition but whatever lol

 

[Dbolsmoothie]

I believe I'm the one who helped with the diet. How did it go? Chicken, tuna and cottage cheese, etc....

 

[newguy1234]

yeah diets going fine im enjoying it but like i say im farting non stop lol thanks m8 ... i aint sure what my bf% is at the moment but i dont think its low enough to start a cycle anyways so im going to put it off for a while ... why should u really have a low bf% before u start a cycle ? yeah think im gonna cut down a bit on the protiens ect as i just jumped straight in eating way more than i would normaly so my body isnt used to it so thats where my gas problem is coming from then. also i think im gonna get my cardio 100% as it aint as good as i would like it to be i can lift fine but when im doing fitness 20min on the rower or treadmill and im knackered. and im wondering if any of you guys know about heart palpataions? i used to have them years ago and its just got me thinking would taking steroids bring this problem back by blood pressure ?

 

[TraPump]

low body fat will lessen the chance of estrogen related of side effects.

 

[noobmuscle]

Mike is steering you right. You see everyone is selling these premixed 55g or 60g protien shakes becuase the general public does not know any better. More is not always better. Bigger guys can digest a little more at one time than smaller guys, but still... 30-35 grams at a time should be all your consuming. The rest is like money getting flushed down the comode... literally. Of course, as your body gets use to your diet and you cycle on, your apppetite and BMR will rise. This will allow you to still only do 30-35 grams in one setting, but your setting may only be 1.5 hours apart.

Also remember that when it comes to you ISO or Whey, quality does make a big difference. Protein in its purist form has the texture of baby powder. When you pay for something like muscletech you are buying a lot of extras so the texture should and does change. It becomes heavier. If you buy a cheap brand that does not have a lot of extras we look for sometimes and the texture is heavy and granulated like the more expensive brands, you might want to switch brands.

This is from personal experience, and having a friend who owns a local pro shop. Cheap protien such as Walmart brand always makes me gasy. Especially after one of my beef meals... yuck! My poor wife...

 

[Dbolsmoothie]

The reason you want to be lower bf is because your bulking. When you bulk, your gonna add bf. better to be lean to start out so once your done with the cycle you don't look like a sloppy lardass. Keep the protein the same or lower a bit(not by much). You need to make sure your getting enough fiber though so you can digest it good. Good fibrous carbs include green leafy vegetables, brown rice, oatmeal, Ezekiel bread and cereal. If you want to shed all that fat, go keto. Eat nothing but high protein and medium fats(nuts, olive oil) to keep you full. Green leafy vegetables like spinach are a must as well. There are 2 ways to lower body fat. 1 is to exercise more during the day. 2 is to speed up your metabolism by eating more. If you eat 10 small portion meals a day, your metabolism will be revving compared to 3-4 big meals a day. If you apply both of these principles for losing fat, you can have a huge dieting arsenal.

 

[noobmuscle]

yeah diets going fine im enjoying it but like i say im farting non stop lol thanks m8 ... i aint sure what my bf% is at the moment but i dont think its low enough to start a cycle anyways so im going to put it off for a while ... why should u really have a low bf% before u start a cycle ? yeah think im gonna cut down a bit on the protiens ect as i just jumped straight in eating way more than i would normaly so my body isnt used to it so thats where my gas problem is coming from then. also i think im gonna get my cardio 100% as it aint as good as i would like it to be i can lift fine but when im doing fitness 20min on the rower or treadmill and im knackered. and im wondering if any of you guys know about heart palpataions? i used to have them years ago and its just got me thinking would taking steroids bring this problem back by blood pressure ?

According to Kane and several vets on this board, a higher BF% puts you in a much higher risk category for gyno, stroke, cardiovacular problems, ect. Remember that steroids stress the body past the point it already is. It effects your lipid profiles (Cholesterol), raises BP, effects your red blood cell count... you actually have more blood on cycle. It also effects your hemoglobin which is where the stroke risk comes from.

By losing as musch as you can before cycle, you reduce all these risk. They never go away, mind you, but that's why many of us are advocated for blood test before, during, and after.

 

[Dbolsmoothie]

There is also NO evidence what so ever that you can only digest 30g of protein per meal. It's another bs bodybuilding myth. If you don't keep flooding your body with protein, it's not going to have enough building blocks to grow. Too little protein and your body will use muscle for a protein source. It's better to have an abundance of protein then to have lower protein and be shooting yourself in the foot. Make sure to drink atleast a gallon of water as well or your bp will rise. Think of this as building a house. If you spend all your money on men to build it with not enough supplies, you can't build it. Think of the guys as energy(carbs and fats) and the building supplies as protein. If you have too much men(fats and carbs) and too little building supplies(protein), you can't build the house!

 

[Dbolsmoothie]

Carbs and fats are to fuel you to get the workout. The protein is to build what you did in the gym.

 

[TraPump]

Mike is steering you right. You see everyone is selling these premixed 55g or 60g protien shakes becuase the general public does not know any better. More is not always better. Bigger guys can digest a little more at one time than smaller guys, but still... 30-35 grams at a time should be all your consuming. The rest is like money getting flushed down the comode... literally. Of course, as your body gets use to your diet and you cycle on, your apppetite and BMR will rise. This will allow you to still only do 30-35 grams in one setting, but your setting may only be 1.5 hours apart.

WRONG

The reason you want to be lower bf is because your bulking. When you bulk, your gonna add bf. better to be lean to start out so once your done with the cycle you don't look like a sloppy lardass. Keep the protein the same or lower a bit(not by much). You need to make sure your getting enough fiber though so you can digest it good. Good fibrous carbs include green leafy vegetables, brown rice, oatmeal, Ezekiel bread and cereal. If you want to shed all that fat, go keto. Eat nothing but high protein and medium fats(nuts, olive oil) to keep you full. Green leafy vegetables like spinach are a must as well. There are 2 ways to lower body fat. 1 is to exercise more during the day. 2 is to speed up your metabolism by eating more. If you eat 10 small portion meals a day, your metabolism will be revving compared to 3-4 big meals a day. If you apply both of these principles for losing fat, you can have a huge dieting arsenal.

WRONG
And it's not even that serious for a beginner. Keep track of your calories/protein/carbs. Make sure you know how many calories to maintain lose or gain. a good rule of thumb when cutting calories is to lower carbs (not completely cut out it's unecessary imo pre 11%bf) and increase protein and fats.

if you're bulking increase your calories say 300 wait a couple weeks, increase another 300 this will help your body adjust to increased energy and utilizing it

There is also NO evidence what so ever that you can only digest 30g of protein per meal. It's another bs bodybuilding myth. If you don't keep flooding your body with protein, it's not going to have enough building blocks to grow. Too little protein and your body will use muscle for a protein source. It's better to have an abundance of protein then to have lower protein and be shooting yourself in the foot. Make sure to drink atleast a gallon of water as well or your bp will rise.

CORRECT

According to Kane and several vets on this board, a higher BF% puts you in a much higher risk category for gyno, stroke, cardiovacular problems, ect. Remember that steroids stress the body past the point it already is. It effects your lipid profiles (Cholesterol), raises BP, effects your red blood cell count... you actually have more blood on cycle. It also effects your hemoglobin which is where the stroke risk comes from.

By losing as musch as you can before cycle, you reduce all these risk. They never go away, mind you, but that's why many of us are advocated for blood test before, during, and after.

CORRECT

 

[chrisperanio]

go hard or go home

 

[Dbolsmoothie]

WRONG


WRONG
And it's not even that serious for a beginner. Keep track of your calories/protein/carbs. Make sure you know how many calories to maintain lose or gain. a good rule of thumb when cutting calories is to lower carbs (not completely cut out it's unecessary imo pre 11%bf) and increase protein and fats.

if you're bulking increase your calories say 300 wait a couple weeks, increase another 300 this will help your body adjust to increased energy and utilizing it


CORRECT

CORRECT

Lmao! Okay Mr. Expert.... Don't critique me unless you know what your talking about bro.

 

[Dbolsmoothie]

U mirin?

 

[newguy1234]

well thanks for all the input guys . gonna stick to what i said and get my phiscal fitness to peak condition and loose some of my bf% before i even give them a thought dont fancy waking up and going to the gym and giving myself a heart attack or something else bad .. yeah i am eating alot of porridge as us english call it (oatmeal) and im getting some brown breads in there and bran flakes all high in fibre ect . yeah the missus has been complaing about the gas problems lol she goes in a right bad mood lol never mind am gonna ease back off from the protiens a little as im gonna start doing alot of cardio and squeeze in light weight lifts nothing major . thanks again id rather be safe than sorry am glad i came across this site or id probably be filling myself ful of god knows what and end up in a bad way .
thanks guys

 

[newguy1234]

also for a cardio fitness planned diet with minimal weight training involved .. what kind of foods should i eat as i wont be needing all those protiens i am eating now as they will be going no where if i aint doing weight lifts