Andromass

[djm6464]

That's good the product worked for you.
Have you ever ran a cycle of Test and Trenbolone or even Test and Primo?
The point I was making is PP comparing their products to Primo, Test and Trenbolone is bullshit, it's like drinking a beer and a glass of water and telling everyone both of them will make you feel the same.

i hate you man lol.....i really doubt the stuff will equal injectable anything, if they have closed the gap is what im interested in.....especially the androhard considering primo's price.....i will agree though, iv heard from alot of guys, with experience, that tren ph was just a ton of sides that were worse than real trenbolone, androhard was super mild, and when i saw people in the 800mg range, i figured it wasnt cost effective anymore.....

i hear what jra is saying, and if you have graduated form phs to aas, its hard to believe the stuff will live up to the hype....test solo blows away anythign iv used, forget about all the other goodies oil wise.....

im hoping they, primordial, do well, for
a)end all this fkn back n forth bitching bout prices, and stacks, and fkn reps leaving, its ridiculous, and sad
b)primo for cheap (androhard) will have a place in any inj cycle for me

 

[Rougen123]

That's good the product worked for you.
Have you ever ran a cycle of Test and Trenbolone or even Test and Primo?
The point I was making is PP comparing their products to Primo, Test and Trenbolone is bullshit, it's like drinking a beer and a glass of water and telling everyone both of them will make you feel the same.

Run tren and test, just not primo. The results I got from the topical were more dramatic because I had alot more room for gains(160-189). My first tren cycle I gained probably about 4lbs(188ish-195) and recomped alot. Personally for me, tren doesn't give me freaky strength like it does others so it's just contextual bro. The good tren clones were literally one (sorry I don't know the chemical jargon, conversion?) step away from illegal trenbolone, virtually the same shit you stick up a cows ass. I'd like to hypothesize that the majority of effects associated to contextual AAS that aren't proven by science i.e.; increased red blood cells, more anabolicness/androgen, ect., is just dependent on what the individual expects.

 

[Good Grip]

Oh bro those just happen to be your personal experiences. Their original tren topical got me from 160-189, and their LV just solidified my strength and probably put another 3lbs on me, as for their androhard, shit got me shredded bro, you can check out my pics in the pics forum. I was at 195 10%

Impressive Rougen, im glad the products worked for you. Im looing forward to seeing what you'll do with the new Androseries.

 

[ryansm]

That's good the product worked for you.
Have you ever ran a cycle of Test and Trenbolone or even Test and Primo?
The point I was making is PP comparing their products to Primo, Test and Trenbolone is bullshit, it's like drinking a beer and a glass of water and telling everyone both of them will make you feel the same.

Doesn't really matter until logs and feedback come out...

 

[HereToStudy]

Doesn't really matter until logs and feedback come out...

Soon enough.

 

[Good Grip]

That's good the product worked for you.
Have you ever ran a cycle of Test and Trenbolone or even Test and Primo?
The point I was making is PP comparing their products to Primo, Test and Trenbolone is bullshit, it's like drinking a beer and a glass of water and telling everyone both of them will make you feel the same.

What else could Eric have compared this to? We need a point of reference that are familiar to many. These are obviously goin to be stronger than creatine and possibly as strong as Sdrol. Thats quit a gap between the 2 and leaves too much room to guess. When I run these, I want something reasonable to compare my upcoming experience to and as Eric has estimated, it compares to 428mgs of test a week( Andromass ).

 

[RA64]

What else could Eric have compared this to? We need a point of reference that are familiar to many. These are obviously goin to be stronger than creatine and possibly as strong as Sdrol. Thats quit a gap between the 2 and leaves too much room to guess. When I run these, I want something reasonable to compare my upcoming experience to and as Eric has estimated, it compares to 428mgs of test a week( Andromass ).

Hey I understand it's called marketing and the more you can Hype up a product the better it will sell, just look at the shit muscle tech sells because they put Jay Cutlers picture on a box of Cryotest the ultimate Test booster according to them.

 

[ryansm]

Ya but we are not muscletech all of our products actually work

 

[djm6464]

Hey I understand it's called marketing and the more you can Hype up a product the better it will sell, just look at the shit muscle tech sells because they put Jay Cutlers picture on a box of Cryotest the ultimate Test booster according to them.

what you mean jra, its not the cell-tech n gakic gettin jay sandows......holy shit...no wonder the hydroxycut didnt make me ripped like johnny jackson.....i even ate what the add told me to

i feel really cheated

 

[hatefulONE]

what you mean jra, its not the cell-tech n gakic gettin jay sandows......holy shit...no wonder the hydroxycut didnt make me ripped like johnny jackson.....i even ate what the add told me to

i feel really cheated

Did you put the hydroxycut in your butt? I heard rectal administration was the key, I will say this though, if primordial performance turns into muscletech it would be a shame to us as real consumers who research what we put into our bodies, but muscletech sells, regardless of how bad and useless some of their stuff is, celltech still sells, nitrotech is up there in sales, all the akic products sell, hydroxycut is the number one weight loss seller of all time, not exactly sure though just guessing lol. As much as I hate muscletech, they market the hell out of themselves and have a team of pro's and now mma and other athletes backing their products. If primordial performance markets like that they will be billionaires, however no way will they be able to put something on the shelves at gnc that says steroids, until the FDA wises up and legalizes gear.

 

[djm6464]

Did you put the hydroxycut in your butt? I heard rectal administration was the key, I will say this though, if primordial performance turns into muscletech it would be a shame to us as real consumers who research what we put into our bodies, but muscletech sells, regardless of how bad and useless some of their stuff is, celltech still sells, nitrotech is up there in sales, all the akic products sell, hydroxycut is the number one weight loss seller of all time, not exactly sure though just guessing lol. As much as I hate muscletech, they market the hell out of themselves and have a team of pro's and now mma and other athletes backing their products. If primordial performance markets like that they will be billionaires, however no way will they be able to put something on the shelves at gnc that says steroids, until the FDA wises up and legalizes gear.

nah....there's place for you hatefulone

the first product i ever bought was cell-tech...and i really was expecting shit....this is a decade ago tho lol....im alot wiser now.....things havent changed tho....they are still on top....yet put out nothing...marketing

there are a few companies, that either market in mags, or on forums using fake logs and trolls and all kinds of stuff....actually everyone pretty much does it

it comes down to the customer, how educated they are, and enuff to make a good choice

if some one wants to buy andromass, and expect hes using the same thing as my delatestryl, fine, i really hope its that good, i buy stuff from them, and hate to see them fail, but my pins are loaded and i doubt that will change

 

[djm6464]

why is it companies like need2 and primordial among others, flood boards, as opposed to fancy spreads in muscular development

is it really that costly? i dont mean use jay cutler in your ads, but an ad none the less

using forums is very effective, but how come i dont see an ad for musclespeed in muscle n fitness, or an add for phytotest in flex?

 

[Rougen123]

Shit dude you post alot of nothing, sorry. PP doesn't need and or want their shit to be mainstream. How long you think their new series would last in the second page of MD? Feds would be all over that shit. They don't need to be in any spotlight, and i'd imagine they try to cater to the real bro's. Some 14yr is alot less likely to know what PP is, than some BSN product in a bright red look at me bottle. Wanna know the people that do advertise in them? OMFGREALROIDSWITHOUTPERSCIPTION.COM...... haha and bash muscle-tech as much as ya'll need, their not goin anywhere. Next time their products kill someones mom, they'll settle, thus the game goes on. Their products aren't shit, for the most part IT IS real shit they sell, they just jack the prices up and throw in a ton of extra shit so the label looks huge so its gotta work right?

 

[RA64]

Doesn't really matter until logs and feedback come out...

Oh yes the andromss logs.
It looks like the ship date on it is 3-14-2011
so a person gets it on 3-14 and starts a cycle it will be well into April before the results of a full cycle are in.

 

[ryansm]

And...

 

[hatefulONE]

Oh yes the andromss logs.
It looks like the ship date on it is 3-14-2011
so a person gets it on 3-14 and starts a cycle it will be well into April before the results of a full cycle are in.

April/May before we really get a feel for what these do, but I'm still getting in on the presale. Lower price for now and also if I don't choose to take anything from the androseries, then I will sell the stuff and probably make a few bones in the process.

 

[BigBlackguy]

April/May before we really get a feel for what these do, but I'm still getting in on the presale. Lower price for now and also if I don't choose to take anything from the androseries, then I will sell the stuff and probably make a few bones in the process.

Yah, lower price and if it doesn't happen to work for you, the 150% guarantee is nice. I'm sure you won't need to claim it though

 

[Good Grip]

April/May before we really get a feel for what these do, but I'm still getting in on the presale. Lower price for now and also if I don't choose to take anything from the androseries, then I will sell the stuff and probably make a few bones in the process.

when I get my Androseries delivered im goin to take a pic of my stash for everyone to see. I think 2 of each is goin to cost me over 800 bucks..

 

[djm6464]

when I get my Androseries delivered im goin to take a pic of my stash for everyone to see. I think 2 of each is goin to cost me over 800 bucks..

id much rather see a progress pic as opposed to pics of bottles, i can see them at the primordial site

8bills is quite the investment into your body, what kind of results are you expecting return wise

 

[Good Grip]

id much rather see a progress pic as opposed to pics of bottles, i can see them at the primordial site

8bills is quite the investment into your body, what kind of results are you expecting return wise

Ah I probably wont buy everything at once. Return wise I expect a few things, like the end of spinning my wheels. Dont get me wrong, ive seen the difference in my in physique, recovery, and performance using various supplements but the only thing that made the most notable difference was with prohormones.

To get specific, with Androlean I expect to get leaner and if forced to put a number on it, id say im aiming for a 5% reduction in bodyfat. Weight is important but I cant guess exact numbers yet.

With Andromass and Androhard ill be aiming for a recomp of sorts. Trading fat for muscle, leaning out even further and muscle up. Strength gains will naturally happen too, so that it a welcome addition.

I have a goal/vision in my mind that id like to acheive but it may take me the whole year. Im not looking for abs but at least a flat stomach and no love handles is acceptable for me. Ill have the muscularity I want to look good imo, and ill have functional strength to go with it.