Andromass

[MattPorter]

I thought Axio was under dosed sketchy stuff? This was 4 years ago? I am VERY intrigued and HOPEFUL with the androHARD.....this is my prediction for the best, most effective hardener and strength inducing compound....mark my words.

 

[BigBlackguy]

Pretty sure axio was raided not too long ago... or am I wrong? I did hear about ****** being raided and apparently people were receiving emails if they had ever bought from them before, asking if they wanted to keep buying. The smart ones didn't reply

A bill has been introduced, in March 2009, in the U.S. Senate (S. 641) that attempts to classify DHEA as a controlled substance under the category of anabolic steroids. The sponsor is Charles Grassley (R-IA). The cosponsors are Richard Durbin (D-IL), and John McCain (R-AZ).[45] This bill was referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee. In December 2007, Charles Grassley introduced the "S. 2470: Dehydroepiandrosterone Abuse Reduction Act of 2007," in an attempt to amend the Controlled Substances Act to make "unlawful for any person to knowingly selling, causing another to sell, or conspiring to sell a product containing dehydroepiandrosterone to an individual under the age of 18 years, including any such sale using the Internet," without a prescription. Only civil (non-criminal) penalties are provided. The bill was read twice and referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee where it died.[46]

From wikipedia. Looks like dhea is here to stay.

 

[hatefulONE]

Wow, are you serious about that bill, honestly there are thousands of more important issues that our government needs to address, and attacking dhea, atleast go after celltech I mean come on that stuff is lethal.

 

[supersafado]

for the whole andromass stack with their recommended post cycle therapy (pct) and everything. is a 6 week cycle for 400 bones. That seems alittle steep for an unproven PH.

 

[HereToStudy]

Wow, are you serious about that bill, honestly there are thousands of more important issues that our government needs to address, and attacking dhea, atleast go after celltech I mean come on that stuff is lethal.

The government does need to protect me from product like this.

for the whole andromass stack with their recommended pct and everything. is a 6 week cycle for 400 bones. That seems alittle steep for an unproven PH.

It is steep. These are not cheap in any sense. however as mentioned above by DJ, there are many benefits seen with these hormones. But, like you said you are skeptic and so are others. To those that dont mind missing the savings of the presale, keep an eye out for the logs, they will show you what we are claiming is legit.

 

[ryansm]

Wow, are you serious about that bill, honestly there are thousands of more important issues that our government needs to address, and attacking dhea, atleast go after celltech I mean come on that stuff is lethal.

The senior citizens have a strong lobby group for DHEA, it isn't getting banned anytime soon.

 

[hatefulONE]

Alright I was talking to a few buddies this morning and we were discussing past cycles, I remember running test p and dbol, dosing the dbol in split dosages pre and post workout, then before bedtime, I am not 100% sure but seems the onset and peak of the andromass will be similar to dbol, so would it be beneficial to split the dose pre and post workout, or when is the recommended times to dose the andromass?

 

[BigBlackguy]

Wow, are you serious about that bill, honestly there are thousands of more important issues that our government needs to address, and attacking dhea, atleast go after celltech I mean come on that stuff is lethal.

Yah, its pretty funny. HURRY SUE CVS FOR SELLING DHEA!!!

Freaking dogmatic idiots don't even understand the body but they are trying to ban all these substances...

 

[Rougen123]

Alright I was talking to a few buddies this morning and we were discussing past cycles, I remember running test p and dbol, dosing the dbol in split dosages pre and post workout, then before bedtime, I am not 100% sure but seems the onset and peak of the andromass will be similar to dbol, so would it be beneficial to split the dose pre and post workout, or when is the recommended times to dose the andromass?

Trying to time doses is a waste of time, all you need to do is dose properly to keep your levels at a consistent "high" a.k.a stable plasma levels. The new PP products hit you and peak within 3hrs. Surprised you didn't figure this one out for yourself with as much posting as you've been doing about these products.

 

[hatefulONE]

Trying to time doses is a waste of time, all you need to do is dose properly to keep your levels at a consistent "high" a.k.a stable plasma levels. The new PP products hit you and peak within 3hrs. Surprised you didn't figure this one out for yourself with as much posting as you've been doing about these products.

When I looked at the pp site, it is recommended that the products be dosed twice a day, and the two doses being 6-8 hours apart from each other. I'm used to the thinking of taking them equally over 24 hours, but according to Eric he recommends not in order to allow the hpta to be effected less. I really wish there was some blood work out but hopefully someone who logs its will do pre and post cycle blood work.

I have to disagree with the dose timing though, I personally notice better effects when dosing certain orals around workouts, particularly dbol as mentioned about, but that is with test in the background providing a stable hormone level. Just my thoughts on the subject.

 

[djm6464]

When I looked at the pp site, it is recommended that the products be dosed twice a day, and the two doses being 6-8 hours apart from each other. I'm used to the thinking of taking them equally over 24 hours, but according to Eric he recommends not in order to allow the hpta to be effected less. I really wish there was some blood work out but hopefully someone who logs its will do pre and post cycle blood work.

I have to disagree with the dose timing though, I personally notice better effects when dosing certain orals around workouts, particularly dbol as mentioned about, but that is with test in the background providing a stable hormone level. Just my thoughts on the subject.

i think with any product, or ph, you need to tailor the dosing to yourself......its a guideline they put out, probabl something they saw....but im with you, i like spacing stuff out, and a dose always 45min prewo

if they say that test levels will peak 3hrs upon dosing, 1-1.5 hrs prewo would be optimal....i train at nigh, i aint taking my doses at 8am and 2pm, doesnt make sense to me

i found with inj test, the days i pinned,my workouts were a bit more intense, so i dont get the dosing reccomendations

 

[hatefulONE]

i think with any product, or ph, you need to tailor the dosing to yourself......its a guideline they put out, probabl something they saw....but im with you, i like spacing stuff out, and a dose always 45min prewo

if they say that test levels will peak 3hrs upon dosing, 1-1.5 hrs prewo would be optimal....i train at nigh, i aint taking my doses at 8am and 2pm, doesnt make sense to me

i found with inj test, the days i pinned,my workouts were a bit more intense, so i dont get the dosing reccomendations

Well put, I even noticed a bit better workouts when pinning shorter esters preworkout, but most of that is placebo from the fact I love to pin. I know that pp is trying to make these products in the androseries very appealing to people who want to "feel" like they are on, but to mentally trick themselves into thinking they aren't "on" because its a pill. If these things work how they claim to and convert to test, 1-test, etc, then they are steroids. If you are willing to take a steroid then you are willing to run the risks involved, and should be prepared with ancillary drugs to combat any sides that come about. I know the dosages are meant to rest the hpta and not always have a hormone level from an exogenous source. I feel that stable levels are better, and I'm willing to be shutdown if I'm taking a steroid. However, if these things actually elicit gains at dosing only twice daily, 6-8 hours apart, and have very minimal sides, and stay legal for a long time, then pp has hit the jackpot.

I'm still not convinced though, excited yes at the innovation, but they haven't even shipped yet. I'm not gonna pull a Dennis Green and say crown em, not yet pp still got some proving to do for the hefty price tag.

Didn't think I'd type that much, too much green tea with my shock therapy before my workout.

 

[ryansm]

I will probably play with the dosing when I run it. Since it will be 12 pills a day, I am thinking of spreading out the dose all day just about to keep blood levels as consistent as possible.

 

[HereToStudy]

I will probably play with the dosing when I run it. Since it will be 12 pills a day, I am thinking of spreading out the dose all day just about to keep blood levels as consistent as possible.

I am still playing with my thoughts on dosing, Might do the 6 hours apart with the last dose being about 2 hours before my workout.

 

[Rougen123]

I'd still argue theres alot of redundancy trying to time dosages, and that any effect is purely placebo, but besides that I've got a question maybe you reps can figure out. I've still got a bottle and half of andro hard in the old LV formula. Does the old formula still compare to primo? What are your thoughts on running over the recommended dose?

 

[Good Grip]

I'd still argue theres alot of redundancy trying to time dosages, and that any effect is purely placebo, but besides that I've got a question maybe you reps can figure out. I've still got a bottle and half of andro hard in the old LV formula. Does the old formula still compare to primo? What are your thoughts on running over the recommended dose?

I dont see the need to. I ran it as the bottle recomended it and saw good results pretty fast. As far as comparing to Primo, I never heard of the old one being compared to it, so its probably not a good one.

 

[djm6464]

I'd still argue theres alot of redundancy trying to time dosages, and that any effect is purely placebo, but besides that I've got a question maybe you reps can figure out. I've still got a bottle and half of andro hard in the old LV formula. Does the old formula still compare to primo? What are your thoughts on running over the recommended dose?

you dont need to be a rep to answer that, having used the first androhard, ill say its similar to proviron if anything, but if you go up to 800mgED, there may be some heightened effects (i was at 600mg)....the new one is supposedly 5xbetter, so i guess ita like you took 3gED or more, which besides the headaches of that much of the original, would be interesting

 

[RA64]

you dont need to be a rep to answer that, having used the first androhard, ill say its similar to proviron if anything, but if you go up to 800mgED, there may be some heightened effects (i was at 600mg)....the new one is supposedly 5xbetter, so i guess ita like you took 3gED or more, which besides the headaches of that much of the original, would be interesting

I tried the androhard-lv when it came out and the only thing I got from it was my hair started falling out so in the trash it went.

If you will remember when PP came out with Tren-LV it as hyped as being close to Trenbolone, well that turned out to be bullshit, so all this hype about comparing one PP product to Primo, and another one to Test-E IMO is all bullshit and will continue to be until people see some unbiased feedback, from guys that have ran the real thing and then ran PP's hyped up modified DHEA.
I understand as PP reps your job is to promote these new products and that's good, but your job would have been a hell of a lot easier if these products would have been tested in a cycle and documented.

 

[Rougen123]

I tried the androhard-lv when it came out and the only thing I got from it was my hair started falling out so in the trash it went.

If you will remember when PP came out with Tren-LV it as hyped as being close to Trenbolone, well that turned out to be bullshit, so all this hype about comparing one PP product to Primo, and another one to Test-E IMO is all bullshit and will continue to be until people see some unbiased feedback, from guys that have ran the real thing and then ran PP's hyped up modified DHEA.
I understand as PP reps your job is to promote these new products and that's good, but your job would have been a hell of a lot easier if these products would have been tested in a cycle and documented.

Oh bro those just happen to be your personal experiences. Their original tren topical got me from 160-189, and their LV just solidified my strength and probably put another 3lbs on me, as for their androhard, shit got me shredded bro, you can check out my pics in the pics forum. I was at 195 10%

 

[RA64]

Oh bro those just happen to be your personal experiences. Their original tren topical got me from 160-189, and their LV just solidified my strength and probably put another 3lbs on me, as for their androhard, shit got me shredded bro, you can check out my pics in the pics forum. I was at 195 10%

That's good the product worked for you.
Have you ever ran a cycle of Test and Trenbolone or even Test and Primo?
The point I was making is PP comparing their products to Primo, Test and Trenbolone is bullshit, it's like drinking a beer and a glass of water and telling everyone both of them will make you feel the same.