anti- e concerns...Help!!!!

rpwhit777

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Hey fellas, heres the deal I have been loading up pretty hard on the T and gyno has become a concern...Small lumps that are a bit sore. Visually I can see nothing when looking at my pecs in the mirror, but I have decided to start my Nolvadex..( 1 week ago)....The problem is that since I started it I haave noticed a decrease in my pumps....I am only taking 10mg per day.....WTF any suggestions????????? thanks in advance bro's..............later
 
I don't think it is because of you holding less water.....Nolva will do very little in that regard.

Another thing that concerns me is, if you do indeed have gyno symptoms, one usually takes 40 mg/day until the syptoms subside, usually a few days, then continue taking 20 mg/day for the duration of your cycle.

How much Test are you on anyways ??
 
the next time you load on test i would run an anti-aromatase inhibitor like letrozole or arimidex to help prevent aromatization. if i was you i would bump up nov to 40 mg/day until soreness goes away then drop to 20 mg the to ten. i would jump on the letrozole right now to help prevent any future aromitization of the test you are injecting now.. you can shrink your gyno but once you get it it is permanately there. good luck and god bless. i FUCKING HATE GYNO
 
I am jacking about 800mg per 5 days, and winni 25mg every day,..So I need to take more Nolvi, I actually have noticed symptoms subside a bit just taking 10, although you are a moderator so I trust your feedback....Do you feel though that my gains will be slowed dramatically by taking so much Nolvi????????????thanks guys youve been a big help.....................later
 
StoneColdNTO said:
I don't think it is because of you holding less water.....Nolva will do very little in that regard.

Another thing that concerns me is, if you do indeed have gyno symptoms, one usually takes 40 mg/day until the syptoms subside, usually a few days, then continue taking 20 mg/day for the duration of your cycle.

How much Test are you on anyways ??

I had small signs, like itchy nips, hit it at 40mg a day for a week, and stayed on it for 3 more days, and did notice a strength issue IMO..so i stopped it since the gyno or itchy puffy was gone, and i am back to normal...

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bigjew said:
the next time you load on test i would run an anti-aromatase inhibitor like letrozole or arimidex to help prevent aromatization. if i was you i would bump up nov to 40 mg/day until soreness goes away then drop to 20 mg the to ten. i would jump on the letrozole right now to help prevent any future aromitization of the test you are injecting now.. you can shrink your gyno but once you get it it is permanately there. good luck and god bless. i FUCKING HATE GYNO

Although it is not a big gyno killer, i like proviron because to me it is multi purpose, it will help against gyno, keeps bloat down and does have a hardening effect..IMO...

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Nzom said:
Somewhere I read that you should NOT take nolva and Letro at the same time. Why is this?
Here's study that could help, but it's ok to run them together.

Impact of tamoxifen on the pharmacokinetics and endocrine effects of the aromatase inhibitor letrozole in postmenopausal women with breast cancer.

Dowsett M, Pfister C, Johnston SR, Miles DW, Houston SJ, Verbeek JA, Gundacker H, Sioufi A, Smith IE.

Department of Biochemistry, Royal Marsden Hospital, London, United Kingdom.

This study examined whether the addition of tamoxifen to the treatment regimen of patients with advanced breast cancer being treated with the aromatase inhibitor letrozole led to any pharmacokinetic or pharmacodynamic interaction. Twelve of 17 patients completed the core period of the trial in which 2.5 mg/day letrozole was administered alone for 6 weeks and in combination with 20 mg/day tamoxifen for the subsequent 6 weeks. Patients responding to treatment continued on the combination until progression of disease or any other reason for discontinuation. Plasma levels of letrozole were measured at the end of the 6-week periods of treatment with letrozole alone and the combination and once more between 4 and 8 months on combination therapy. No further measurements were done thereafter. Hormone levels were measured at 2-week intervals throughout the core period. Marked suppression of estradiol, estrone, and estrone sulfate occurred with letrozole treatment, and this was not significantly affected by the addition of tamoxifen. However, plasma levels of letrozole were reduced by a mean 37.6% during combination therapy (P<0.0001), and this reduction persisted after 4-8 months of combination therapy. Letrozole is the first drug to be described in which this pharmacokinetic interaction occurs with tamoxifen. The mechanism is likely to be a consequence of an induction of letrozole-metabolizing enzymes by tamoxifen but was not further addressed in this study. It is possible that the antitumor efficacy of letrozole may be affected. Thus, sequential therapy may be preferable with these two drugs. It is not known whether tamoxifen interacts with other members of this class of drugs or with other drugs in combination.
 
guys I really appreciate all this info.........thanks...big up to all who have helped.........Question? can I expect a dramatic loss of the overall gains I expected from this cycle by running the nolvi side by side with the T& Winni???????/ if so how can I minimize this? is there gears to stack or better anti-e's other than the ones previously mentioned throughout this post?????????????/ thanks again fellas....R
 
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