Antix's First Cycle - Test E

[Antix]

I will be running Test E 250mg 2x a week on Monday and Thursday night for 12 weeks. 21g to draw, 25g to pin. I will also be using Anastrozle for my AI. My PCT consists of both Nolva and Clomid. I will be using a cycle support during that will include hawthorne berry, NAC and milk thistle. I will also be supplementing with Liv52, multi vitamin, and protein powder. My nutrition will be around 4000 calories to start which is about 1500 calories over RMR. Drink over a gallon of water a day. Here's my stats:
- Age: 24
- Weight: 180lb
- Body Fat: 8%
- Experience: 6 Years Lifting

I willl be starting when I get back too Colorado on the 29th. Any comments, questions or concerns?

 

[hiram1st]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

If you havent read it its a good read

Have you ever looked into HCG as an option? Pct protocol?

Bloodwork?

 

[Antix]

steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/664646-cycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

If you havent read it its a good read

Have you ever looked into HCG as an option? Pct protocol?

Bloodwork?

Unfortunately money is scarce so HCG is out of the question, and I have normal blood work that is ~4 months old.

PCT as follows:
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 20/20/20/20

 

[Hypnotix]

Clomid needs to be 50/50/50/50
Nolva, 40/40/20/20

HCG should be done. Do not skimp on this. It fires up your testicles whilst on cycle. This keeps them "active" in a sense and primed for recovery. Imagine this, your pituitary is not sending signals to the testicles to be "awake" or to produce anything, because of the supra-physiological levels of Testosterone your body is being given for free! (Or so it seems to your body)
At the end of your cycle, your system will have been shut down for a good while. It needs help getting rev'd up again and reconnected in a sense. The HCG will be used up until the PCT begins. This will have your nuts primed and ready for the link-up you're going to be encouraging. Then, Clomid is introduced into the regimen. Clomid fires up the pituitary which will tell your nuts to begin producing on their own again. Because your testicles will have been already going, they will experience an easier recovery most of the time. An easier recovery equals less muscle wasting when coming off them high levels of Test.

I wouldn't start my cycle without HCG in-hand. If you've already waited this long to do your first cycle, wait a little longer until you can manage to have everything. Besides, its really inexpensive. You can find BAC water to mix it with, and insulin syringes for injecting it all over the internet.. Don't knowingly skimp on your own health if you can just wait it out.

 

[Antix]

Clomid needs to be 50/50/50/50
Nolva, 40/40/20/20

HCG should be done. Do not skimp on this. It fires up your testicles whilst on cycle. This keeps them "active" in a sense and primed for recovery. Imagine this, your pituitary is not sending signals to the testicles to be "awake" or to produce anything, because of the supra-physiological levels of Testosterone your body is being given for free! (Or so it seems to your body)
At the end of your cycle, your system will have been shut down for a good while. It needs help getting rev'd up again and reconnected in a sense. The HCG will be used up until the PCT begins. This will have your nuts primed and ready for the link-up you're going to be encouraging. Then, Clomid is introduced into the regimen. Clomid fires up the pituitary which will tell your nuts to begin producing on their own again. Because your testicles will have been already going, they will experience an easier recovery most of the time. An easier recovery equals less muscle wasting when coming off them high levels of Test.

I wouldn't start my cycle without HCG in-hand. If you've already waited this long to do your first cycle, wait a little longer until you can manage to have everything. Besides, its really inexpensive. You can find BAC water to mix it with, and insulin syringes for injecting it all over the internet.. Don't knowingly skimp on your own health if you can just wait it out.

So a little higher on Nolva for the first 2 weeks and keep the Clomid at 50. Would having Nolva that strong bring up any nasty sides? Unfortunately in my travels through the interweb I have not found what I believe to be a reliable source, so that's probably the ultimate determining factor in adding it to my cycle.

 

[Hypnotix]

So a little higher on Nolva for the first 2 weeks and keep the Clomid at 50. Would having Nolva that strong bring up any nasty sides? Unfortunately in my travels through the interweb I have not found what I believe to be a reliable source, so that's probably the ultimate determining factor in adding it to my cycle.

It's the cookie cutter PCT layout on this board. Almost everyone will recommend Clomid and Nolva to be ran in that fashion.

But, don't take that advice and not listen to everything about HCG. It's not usually faked. Pick a source with good reviews and just order their HCG, if it doesn't come, you lost money. If it does, there's a very high chance it will be real.

It's no different of a risk, as buying any other illegal substances.. never know 100% what you're getting unless it's from a doctor. Even the Test you have.. from a friend, from an online source, you don't know 100% it's potency or of its even real test until your intra cycle bloodwork tells you so. With that being said, get HCG, and don't start cycle until you have it.

 

[Antix]

It's the cookie cutter PCT layout on this board. Almost everyone will recommend Clomid and Nolva to be ran in that fashion.

But, don't take that advice and not listen to everything about HCG. It's not usually faked. Pick a source with good reviews and just order their HCG, if it doesn't come, you lost money. If it does, there's a very high chance it will be real.

It's no different of a risk, as buying any other illegal substances.. never know 100% what you're getting unless it's from a doctor. Even the Test you have.. from a friend, from an online source, you don't know 100% it's potency or of its even real test until your intra cycle bloodwork tells you so. With that being said, get HCG, and don't start cycle until you have it.

Tis settled, Clomid 50/50/50/50, Nolva 40/40/20/20, and I'll find some hCG for between my cycle and PCT. I'll prob just try and ask my source and see what they got.

 

[hiram1st]

Tis settled, Clomid 50/50/50/50, Nolva 40/40/20/20, and I'll find some hCG for between my cycle and PCT. I'll prob just try and ask my source and see what they got.

What's your hurry. Wait get the HCG and run it on cycle hyp laid it out for you

 

[Hypnotix]

What's your hurry. Wait get the HCG and run it on cycle hyp laid it out for you

HCG is ran at 250ius 2x / week, I inject with 29ga x .5"

 

[Antix]

HCG is ran at 250ius 2x / week, I inject with 29ga x .5"

I've heard you should take hCG between last pin and PCT so ~2 weeks, i've also seen you should run it the whole 12 week cycle. What is the best method?

 

[Onk]

I've heard you should take hCG between last pin and PCT so ~2 weeks, i've also seen you should run it the whole 12 week cycle. What is the best method?

HCG is all about keeping the testicles active so by using it ONLY for the last 2 weeks prior to PCT you're neglecting all the time up to that point in time, which is counter intuitive to what you're trying to achieve.
This why ology members will say run HCG 250iU 2x a week from your first pin up until 3-4 days before PCT