Any vets or experts want to help a newbie out? Research has been done guys!

BlackPanther206

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I'm sure you've seen many posts like this one but please help me out, I'll be more than happy to return the favor.

So I'm 21 (havent grown in 2 years via height) 174, at 6'1'', I've been lifting for about 2 1/2 years and AM ready to start using steroids, I DO NOT plan on taking steroids for more than a bulk and cut cycle for sure, I just planning on taking them once ( bulk and cut) and then stopping, So what dosages do you think are a good idea and of what?

I've read a lot and a lot! Trust me, I just need some help from a expert in starting my first and last cycles. OH and I do know how to reach high caloric goals and actually lift, bulk/cut naturally as well.

and if you can help me thanks a lot!!! I really appreciate it dudes! :)
 
Regardless of how many years you have been lifting a first cycle is a first cycle and shou be a testosterone only cycle if you are bulking on it you will see better gains and more fully utilise the test
But If you plan to do only 1 bulk and 1 cut you need to follow a strict lifting schedule and diet in order to maintain your gains you should run
Test e 600mg/week 12 weeks
Aromasin 12.5mg ed 14 weeks
Pct
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolvadex 40 /40/20/20
 
test e/c @ 600 mg for 10-12 weeks will be fine

but, 174 lbs @ 6-1? you need to get your diet figured out. Talk to 3J in the diet section. You can use all the steroids in the world, you wont put on mass unless you eat enough

diet is key
 
I just planning on taking them once ( bulk and cut) and then stopping

thats what they all say... LOL

you'll do one cycle and the euphoria, alpha and progress you will see will keep you coming back for more. on a serious note, unless youre an extremely low BF (which thinking as you want to bulk and cut youre probably not that low) then you need to figure out how to eat and have your diet on point in order to keep your gains/changes throughout and post cycle.

good luck
 
Id go with 500mg each week for a first cycle. I know that's not much of a difference at all but it will save money and at the same time be plenty for a first cycle. I'd go with twelve weeks as well since it will take about 4 weeks to kick in and 6 weeks for it to peak.
 
test e/c @ 600 mg for 10-12 weeks will be fine

but, 174 lbs @ 6-1? you need to get your diet figured out. Talk to 3J in the diet section. You can use all the steroids in the world, you wont put on mass unless you eat enough

diet is key
Agreed, ur a bit on the small side, if ur diet was correct then i don't think ypud still be at that weight work on diet first build a solid base and then start.
 
With a proper diet, your weight would increase substantially. No point in taking steroids if you have a poor diet.

Steroids are a supplement. Food is where you make the gains.
 
You should have no problem hitting 200lbs natural at 6'1". Judging by your weight you don't know enough about a high caloric surplus like you say.
 
test e/c @ 600 mg for 10-12 weeks will be fine

but, 174 lbs @ 6-1? you need to get your diet figured out. Talk to 3J in the diet section. You can use all the steroids in the world, you wont put on mass unless you eat enough

diet is key

Thanks for the input! I really appreciate it, and I've actually gained about 15-20 pounds over the years, and AM planning on being really serious with diet/lifting.
 
thats what they all say... LOL

you'll do one cycle and the euphoria, alpha and progress you will see will keep you coming back for more. on a serious note, unless youre an extremely low BF (which thinking as you want to bulk and cut youre probably not that low) then you need to figure out how to eat and have your diet on point in order to keep your gains/changes throughout and post cycle.

good luck

Thanks for the input!
 
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