anything better i could replace/use for 2nd ph cycle?

[gates112]

just wondering if I would get better results if I were to stack a ph or add something else in

last time for entire cycle and pct i used: helladrol 1-6 weeks, n2 guard whole cycle including into pct, hc generate weeks 3-6, clomid pct, power chews d test, unleashed post cycle combo, and also forma stanzol...even used taurine to tolerate the back pumps with helladrol

was wondering any tips on anything i could take away that isn't that effective or if this was a good cycle..i did go up in numbers on bench press about 50 pounds and squats and deadlifts 80 or so pounds each...wanted to know if anyone had greater results with something else or if i should use a similar cycle as this again....my goals right now are size but also greater definition all the help is appreciated thanks guys

 

[psizzle_8]

I strongly suggest sarms. You're coming off an oral PH cycle which, depending on dosages, can be taxing on the liver, and with sarms, you get a great recomp from them while suffering NO liver toxicity issues. It'll give your liver a break and allow you to still bulk and shred up.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...sarms-info-thread-hosted-sarmssearch-com.html
^ here's a thread I've started

Don't hesitate to PM me with any sarms questions. I'm happy to help!

 

[packers6211]

I just got another bottle of iml msten. I ran it last yr had a blast and came off trt for the entire tire i felt that good. I did have support supps as well. I always have clomid on hand. Orbit Nutrition - Buy IronMagLabs M-STEN Rx Cheap!

 

[mich29]

just wondering if I would get better results if I were to stack a ph or add something else in

last time for entire cycle and pct i used: helladrol 1-6 weeks, n2 guard whole cycle including into pct, hc generate weeks 3-6, clomid pct, power chews d test, unleashed post cycle combo, and also forma stanzol...even used taurine to tolerate the back pumps with helladrol

was wondering any tips on anything i could take away that isn't that effective or if this was a good cycle..i did go up in numbers on bench press about 50 pounds and squats and deadlifts 80 or so pounds each...wanted to know if anyone had greater results with something else or if i should use a similar cycle as this again....my goals right now are size but also greater definition all the help is appreciated thanks guys

mdrol or beast v2 from mrsupps would be good ph's to look into for what your wanting to do

 

[gates112]

is the new beastdrol more effective than hella?

 

[psizzle_8]

is the new beastdrol more effective than hella?

That's not a fair comparison.

Beast is known for producing quick gains while hella is more like tbol and produces slower steady gains that take a few weeks to see. But when fed correctly it's amazing.

Hella is often given bad reviews for this exact reason. People compare it to beast. That's like comparing GH to tren.

 

[Slakethythirst]

Not sure what to remove, but you can consider adding a non methyl like topical dienolone. I got great results stacking it with a ph. Actually, epistane and trenazone combo is my favorite, even better than superdrol in my opinion. Don't gain quite as much but you can do a 6 week cycle, minimum sides, and with a good serm you keep almost everything post cycle

Good luck

 

[WittgensteinNephew]

On the tip:
Beast=Poseurish, illusory, Wastes your money, destroys your liver, and adds too much water to be remotely aesthetic-enhancing imo.
Hella=not as good/fun as Epi-Strong. Epi's drier in my experience, produces quicker gains. Hella kind of sneaks up on you. You're ready to throw in the towel and then suddenly in the vicinity of weak four you wake up like Peter Parker.

Go for SARMS over prohormones. Great alternative to designers without the liver toxicity and with minimal suppression. Pick up the triple stack (GW, Osta, S4) from sarmssearch and you will be astounded. You get dry, keepable gains without worrying you'll have to hock one of your testicles down the road.

 

[smoky370]

I disagree with both explanations of beast and hella. I am only 2 weeks in with hella and have already gained 6 lbs been getting amazing strength gains and looking jacked even out of the gym. My buddy is 2 weeks in on the Beast and has made ridiculous strength gains and has been loosing some body fat, doesn't look bloated at all . Then again forma has been thrown into the mix and it's also beast v2 so maybe your talking about the original. I would recommend Hella to anyone that is looking for dry gains and strength. I can't speak for EPI as I haven't ran epi-strong so I don't know which is "dryer" or better but I see a lot of people have different point of views on each as to which is better over the other.

 

[gymrat827]

On the tip:
Beast=Poseurish, illusory, Wastes your money, destroys your liver, and adds too much water to be remotely aesthetic-enhancing imo.
Hella=not as good/fun as Epi-Strong. Epi's drier in my experience, produces quicker gains. Hella kind of sneaks up on you. You're ready to throw in the towel and then suddenly in the vicinity of weak four you wake up like Peter Parker.

Go for SARMS over prohormones. Great alternative to designers without theR liver toxicity and with minimal suppression. Pick up the triple stack (GW, Osta, S4) from sarmssearch and you will be astounded. You get dry, keepable gains without worrying you'll have to hock one of your testicles down the road.

idk what's up with you but hella is great. Ran it 3 times.

 

[WittgensteinNephew]

Experience: Epi's gains are less substantial when "on" but they're drier and more keepable. I know they say Hella doesn't aromatize, but I gained a lot of water on it, and I found Epi to be amazing w/r/t recomping.

 

[gates112]

yeah man im using helladrol right now have a couple bottles so no point in running something else might look into epi later on...figured next time i run a prohormone im going to straight bulk until i reach 200+ pounds

 

[gymrat827]

Hella is pretty dam dry IMHO.

 

[MMA732]

as mentioned before, cannot go wrong with sarms AMERICAN NUTRACEUTICAL DEVELOPMENT OSTADEX 60CT

 

[nickb86]

Beastdrol was dryer but harsh, diesel was the wetter PH and a little less harsher, shame these two bad boys are gone.